Transparent Animated Gif not possible anymore in Keynote 09?

I have created an animated GIF (a series of transparent GIFs) with Adobe Image Ready, which was showing and playing OK on keynote 2.0.2. I have tried the same animated GIF on 5.0, and it seems the transparency of GIF is gone, it plays OK though. It would appear silly to lose this feature on later keynotes.
Any ideas why Keynote 5.0 does show the GIF without the transparency?
Any ideas are appreciated!
-AstroGrad

You just need transparency in your file. Not sure if it has to be pre-multiplied. In graphic converter you need to remove the backgrounds. Haven't used GC in years so can't say how you can be sure it's gone but in Photoshop, Illustrator and After Effects you can choose to have a checkerboard background to tell you when you are seeing 'thru' the image and by how much (the overall opacity or mask of the whole image if that doesn't confuse the issue).
If you are using PS images they will almost certainly generated with a set of rectangles including a perimeter cropping box and white background and these need to go either before it's bitmapped in a vector base app or the relevant pixels erased after it has been bit mapped in GC. As previously mentioned, if you have a unique bkgd colour, colour selecting/keying are some ways to do this). Much faster for >10 images to generate the plots without the bkgd but this may not be possible, what software is source material coming from?
I regularly bring in vector based moving art-work into keynote with alpha from Adobe AE, Apple Quartz and rendered .mov files. Some codecs (H.264) don't support a separate alpha channel (RGBA) but PNG (slow to render) and animation and a bunch of others do. Pre-multiplying removes the A channel in the RGBA (by multiplying the R/G/B by the A values) thereby speeding and making compatible with some GPUs/render pipelines.

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