Transport Request and Cross-Application techniques

Respected Members,
I want to know what is the difference between the transporting request and Cross-Application Technique( eg ALE)
Generally suppose you have made some object in development server and then a transport request will be created and through transporting to the production server same data can be transported to production server.
Same thing we do with ALE also that we can transport the data from one server to another server or from one client to another client.
THen what will be the difference between the transport objects and Cross-Application techniques.
Clear this picture by giving your valuable answers.
Thanks a Lot.
Manish

Hi Manish,
The applications transferred through Transport Requests and the data passed through ALE or EDI are completely different technologies.
The Transport requests transfer the programs and the configurations that you do within the development Server or rather the SAP system to the Production Server and then you execute them to get the desired result.
On the other hand,ALE(Application Linking and Enabling) or EDI(Electronic Data Transfer) transfers the data or rather business documents(for example vendor payments or making the payme nt through cheques) from one system to another system,i.e different Landscapes.
If suppose you want to transfer the data from one SAP system to another SAP system which are in completely different landscapes,then you use ALE and in case you transfer it from one SAP system to another Non-SAP system or vice-versa,you use EDI.
Moreover,you cannot view the coding or the configuration part in case of ALE or EDI whereas you can view the same in terms of Transport requests.
The landscape means all the clients within one SAP system.
I hope I have made it In case you have any further clarifications,do let me know.
Regards,
Puneet Jhari.clear.

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There is a transport route defined by your Basis Team for the transport scenarios. There, the possible ways through which request can be moved( from Dev --> QA & Dev --> Prod ) are defined.
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hi, while doing a program bymistake i have taken a request id of another program which has been send to quality
now my running program has been attach to that program please please help me out iam in great trouble...............
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Edited by: Thomas Zloch on Jan 5, 2012 - subject enhanced

Hi,
If you want to retrieve the older version of that program in quality, then you need to go to -->version management and retrieve the older version of that program in development system. Capture it in a new transport and transport it to quality.
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