Transportation Lead Time and Transit time
Hi All,
How to calculate the transportation lead time and the transit time from the delivery document in SAP. Please clarify me.
Regards
Srikkanth
Dear Srikkanth,
[How to calculate Lead Time|lead time]
Also refer:
[Scheduling|http://www.sap-img.com/sap-sd/backward-and-forward-scheduling-in-sap-sd.htm]
[Scheduling - |http://www.sap-basis-abap.com/sd/what-is-forward-and-backward-scheduling.htm]
Best Regards,
Amit
Note: Path
SPRO --> IMG --> Logistics Execution --> Shipping --> Basic Shipping Functions --> Scheduling --> Delivery and Tranportation Scheduling --> Maintain Duration
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After considering transpoartation lead time,pick/pack time,loading time & transit time system do confirm whether stock is available or not.....my doubt is whr do we maintain the above said times in the system?........Hi saravanakumar
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You need to have clarity on backward scheduling and forward scheduling
For example you are creating a sales order today 15.02.2009 and the requested delivery date is 25.02.2009 from the customer side
Transit time is 2 Days
Transportaion planning time is 2 days
Loading time is 1 day
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This is illogical
This means backward is failing here and now forward calculation takes place
Forward calculation
If you have enough stocks today 15.02.2009 + 2 days transportation planning time+ 1 day loading time+2 days transit time = 20.02.2009
This means that is on 20.02.2009 the stocks can be confirmed for this order as against a requested delivery date of 17.02.2009
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In backward you will find only one date in the schedule lines which is the same as requeted delivery date that is 25.02.2009 in our case
Hope i made things little bit clear to you
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is the time taken to arrange for a del i.e
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means if fpr picking and packing it takes 1 days and for loading mat at shiping pint i takes 2 days then ur transpotation lead time wld b 3 days
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We need to maintain different sourcing lead times for different products in the "Transport duration" field of the "Means of Transport" of the transportation lane. The transportation lane exists between the Supplier and the DC. A single vendor would supply different products which may have different lead times.
Could anyone kindly give us pointers as to how this could done in the TL ?
Best Regards,
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313 -- Transfer posting SL to SL --- Remove from issuing SL
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Hi SAP GURUS,
How the Delivery lead time works in Sales Order i.e
"From the time a confirmed Sales order is punched till the time we have delivered the material"
How to confgure to use effectivelyWhen you create sales order, system automatically proposes data based on configuration settings.
1. Check the schedule line proposed by system in sales order. Let's say CP. Go to transaction VOV6 and see if availability check is checked.
2. Check the requirement type proposed by system in sales order. Let's say 041. Go to transaction OVZH and see what requirement class has been assigned to it. Let' say 041.
3. Go to transaction OVZG and see if availability check has been checked for this requirement class 041.
4. Check the shipping point proposed by system in sales order.
Go to transaction OVLZ and check Loading time & pick pack time maintained there for this shipping point. If there is nothing let's say we have 24 hours and 24 hours respectively.
5. Check the route proposed by system in sales order. Let's say route selected is 000003. Go to transaction 0VTC and see Transit duration & Transportation lead times maintained there. Let's say timings maintained are 2 days and 1 days respectively.
Now let's say a customer calls and says he wants a material delivered on Apr 25. Now what the system does is that it does backward scheduling. i.e. it goes backward from delivery date i.e. 25th April. It reduces 3 days for transit time, reduces time taken for loading time, reduces days taken for arranging transport, reduces time taken for pick pack. After calculation it arrives at date Apr 21. Now it checks whether material is available on this date i.e. Apr 21.
If material is available, it confirms delivery date.
Otherwise, if material is not available on Apr 21, it determines date on which material is available. Let's say material is available on Apr 23. Now, system immediately carries out forward scheduling. So it starts calculating from Apr 23 and adds time and dates maintained for picking & packing; transportation lead time, loading time and transit time.
Also note that system takes into account factory holidays, factory timings when it is calculating above. If factory works 24 hours and is closed on Saturday & Sunday, system arrives at date Apr 30. It now confirms delivery date as Apr 30 to customer.
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Related to shipment & transportation Dates & Time.
Hi,
Could you please tell me where can I find following dates & time in customizing.
1) Transit time & transit date
2) Loading time & loading date
3) Pick/Pack time
4) Transportation Lead time
Also can you give one example of forward scheduling & backward scheduling.
ThanksHi..
when u r creating sales order first system will go with backward scheduling if it is not reach the dates then system will go for forward scheduling.
Backward Scheduling:
material available datepick/pack time loading time transit timetransportation lead time
for ex order dated is 1st req deliver date is 10th assume like this
for pick/pack time = 2
for loading time = 2
for transportation lead time = 2
for transit =5
in backward scheduling from 10th
522+2 = 11days it is taking that means it crossing the order date ate the time it will go for forward scheduling
from 1st on wards 222+5 it will confirm 11th..
this is happening when the material is available on 1st.
If the material is not available then it will find material available date suppose that is on 3rd the sysstem will calculate like this 225 = 9 ( forward scheduling ) it will not consider Transportation lead time i.e( Lorry arrangement time ) because we can do this arrange ment between 1st and 3rd. then sys confirm on 3rd + 9days i.e 12th.
Pick/pack time system will pick up from shipping point Transportation time ( Trans lead time+ Transit time ) is from Route. Transit time means travel duration time..
Delievry scheduling will be started only from the material availability date i.e., system will first determine the material avail date and then do scheduling. By default Standard SAP system does Backward Scheduling in case material availability falls beyond the required delivery date system will do forward schedluing
Delivery Scheduling consists of the following Basic activities:
We give deatils while creating order:
Order Creation Date
Required Delivery Date
Order date - Material availability date - Transportation Planning Date - Loading date - Goods Issue Date - Required Delivery Date
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Time Between LoadingDate and GI Date is called Loading time
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Try joining VBAK, VBAP, LIKP and LIPS tables.
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My sittuation is :
Material - Lead Time: (depend on source)
Transit Time: (depend on source)
My company is responsable to transport all bought material. Besides, I can buy of differents suppliers.
Considering these rules, It s impossible to fix dates in material master, because material purchase is related with center and not with supplier. By the way, I need to discover other master data to configure it maybe : Inforecord, quotization... Whatever...
I need to correct this to generate Purchase order with dispatched date of my source against required date of my company after execute MRP.
I tried to study this scenario but until now I ve not got a solution.
Probably, you have had it before and can help me.
I hope your help!
Thank you!
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Regards,
nick -
Planned Delivery Time and Transportation duration- Tlane and Means of Transportation
Dear Experts ,
I have question regarding lead time calculation my SNP
I have
Start Location : A
Destination location: B
I maintained Planned delivery time in ECC- material master as 10 days and cifed to Tlane Product procurement as 10 days
and leave empty in the transportation duration empty so the total lead time is 10 days from start location A to destination location B
now
I maintain 24 hours in Means of transport as transportation duration by truck
now the lead time is 11 days from start location A to destination location B
Now
i leave empty planned delivery time empty and maintain Means of transport duration as 48 hours
so the lead time is 2 days from A to B
does my understanding is correct or not advise please
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Take a look of these notes. Specially SAP note 379006. This note explains how the system sets the times in ECC and APO. Basically, It recommends a BAdI in order to match the delivery date in ECC and APO (transit time). What I recommend is to set delivery time equal to 0 if this is possible in your company.. This is not an SAP recommendation, because the delivery date is a key master data in the purchasing process and making it equal to 0 could not be allowed.. Now, if its possible in your case, it is the easiest way to ensure consistency...
These are the notes:
379006
- Transport duration and planned delivery time in APO and R/3
441622
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624982
- Incorrect dates for RBA controlled stock transfer
Kind Regards,
Mariano -
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We have following scenario -
1. Sales order is created in AT organization.
2. There is no onhand in any of the organizations including AT.
3. The scheduled ship date for sales order comes as order creation date + item lead time = 15-Sep-2011.
3. PO for sufficient quantity is available at UK org with need-by date as 01-Jun-2011.
5. Post processing item lead time for this item is 1 day.
4. intransit shipment is setup between UK and AT.
5. Shipment Transit lead times are also set up at 3 days between locations of UK and AT.
6. ASCP plan is run.
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8. Expectation is that API should also take transit lead time into consideration while calculating the ATP dates and hence the Expectation is that scheduled ship date should come as 05-Jun-2011 (PO need-by date + Transit lead time + 1 day of post processing).
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a. if this is standard functionality of oracle or not.
b. if this is standard functionality then what setups are missing required for the same to be achieved.
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Hi,
I have created PO with NBD as D25 (Day 25) and approved it. This means that i need the goods to be at my premisis by D25.
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Lead Time - Customizatiou0131n steps: Shipping point, route, and loading group
It says about delivery scheduling that "The lead time considers the shipping point, route, and loading group". Can anybody explain me briefly the customization menu steps about this sentence?
Thanks in advance.Please go through this document it will help you
1) Maintain transportation planning point through Menu as follows:
IMG Maintain Logistic Execution  Definition Enterprise Structure  transportation planning point.
Create your own like BP01 enter the general data¡¯s required
2) Defining modes of transport:
IMG RoutesBasic Transportation Functions  Transportation Logistic Execution Define modes of transportDefine routes
Use the standard like:
Shipping type: 01
Description: Road
3) Define shipping types :
Basic Transportation Transportation Logistic ExecutionIMG Define shipping types Route Functions
Or through T-code: SM30
PT: 01
Description: Truck
Mdtr: 01
STPG: 0001
4) Define transportation connecting point :
LogisticIMG DefineRoutes  Basic Transportation Functions  Transportation Execution Define transportation connection pointsroutes
Copy the std point and make it FB01 as departure zone and FB02 as destination zone
5) Define routes and stages.
 Logistic Execution IMG Define Define routes Routes  Basic Transportation Functions Transportation routes and stages
Use the standard route and copy it as FB0001 and enter the departure zone and destination as what we created.
6) Defining Transportation Zone:
Basic Transportation Logistic Execution IMG Define transportation Router determination  Route Transportation Functions zones
Use the standard transportation zone depending on the route so as for the example use 0000000003 - Southern Region
7) Maintain country or transportation zone for shipping points
 Logistic Execution IMG  Route determination  Route  Basic Transportation Functions Transportation Maintain country and transportation zone for shipping point
Shipping point be ASH1 and route as 0000000003 which is assigned to country India
8) Maintain route determination:
Logistic ExecutionIMG Route determination Route  Basic Transportation Functions  Transportation  Maintain route determination
Country of departure: India
Departure Zone: 0000000003
Country of destination: India
Destination Zone: 0000000003
And enter the datas needed like shipping condition 01, etc.
Maintain Transportation relevance for shipping point, sales document type and delivery types.
9) Now create shipping types
IMG Define shipment Shipments  Transportation Logistic Execution types
Copy the standard 0001 and make it to AFIL
10) Define and assign traffic zones through T-Code: T_76 (or) thru menu as follows
IMG Define Basic functions  Shipments cost  Transportation Logistic Execution and assign tariff zones
Copy the standard and make it to FABTARIFF and assign our transportation planning point as ATP1, ATP2 assign tariff zone to every particular transportation planning point
11) Define and assign pricing procedures
Shipments Transportation  Logistic Execution IMG define and assign pricing Price control  Pricing cost procedures
Copy the standard shipping cost pricing procedure SDFC00 to FBSC01
12) Assign purchasing data:
 Logistic Execution IMG Assign purchasing data Settlement  Shipments cost Transportation
13) Assign transportation planning point to shipping condition, purchase organization, purchasing group and to plants.
14) Define Automatic G/L account determination:
 Transportation  Logistics Execution IMG Automatic G/L Account Determination Settlement Shipment Costs
Or through T-code: OMWB
Use G/L account 614000 as used in standard
15) Automatic determination of CO assignments:
IMG Automatic Settlement  Shipment Costs  Transportation Logistics Execution Determination of CO Assignments
Or T-code: OKB9
16) Maintain shipping point address.
 Logistics Execution  Definition Enterprise Structure Define, copy, delete, check shipping point
17) Creating G/L account centrally.
Financial AccountingAccounting  Master Records  General Ledger 
Individual Processing Centrally
Or through T-Code: FS00
18) Enter the G/L account 614000 to the company code AFIL
19) Create transportation condition records:
 Shipment cost  Transportation  Master data Logistic Execution createPrices
Or thru T-code: TK11
Enter condition type FB00 that is freight condition type, which is used as standard in the shipping cost pricing procedure.
Enter the price and save it
Process:
1. The system determines the pricing procedure for the shipment cost item-using transportation planning point, service agent and shipment cost item category
2. Calculation Basis
3. Condition Record
4. Access sequence.
For the sales order, create a delivery using VL01N and pick the goods. Now create a shipment using VT01N and assign the delivery to the shipment document. Make sure to enter the carrier and other details before performing the transportation planning and execution. Save the shipment document and PGI for the delivery would be done automatically.
A shipment represents a physical goods movement between two or more locations.
For the system to create a shipment, shipping-relevant deliveries must exist.
You use Transportation Planning to group pending deliveries into shipments and then to perform the shipments.
The outbound delivery documents contain routes that the system calculates in route determination, and a transportation planning date for the delivery.
Dynamic transportation planning is responsible for grouping together outbound deliveries into shipments that have at least the same route, visit plan type and the same transportation planning date.
The following restrictions can be taken into account for a shipment in Dynamic Transportation Planning:
Weight
Volume
Variable capacity
Number of stops
Maximum duration
Loading units
Create Shipment Document
Use
After the status of the delivery is open for transportation planning, it is possible to create a shipment document to schedule the transportation.
Transportation Create Single document Logistics Logistic Execution  TransportationPlanning
T.code: VT01n
Enter your transportation planning point and shipment type. Press enter.
Creating the shipment cost document
Use
After the deliveries are scheduled by shipment and the shipment is executed, now it is time to maintain and close the shipment document in order to record all relative information and ready for the shipment cost settlement.
Single document Logistics Logistic Execution  Transportation Shipment cost Create
T.code: VI01.
After creation of shipment cost doc. You settle the Shipment cost.
Go to VI02, enter shipment cost no.and press enter.
Then go to Overview -- Fright cost items, Select the line item and double click it.
Go as main menu: Item --> Acc. assignment, you enter G/L acc. and cost center to which the transportation cost will be posted.
On the Standard change, details Freight cost items screen, then check the check box Transfer, which means you will transfer the relative transportation cost to FI/CO, in this case, the system should determined which Purchase Order will used to settle the cost, so after you check the Transfer check box.
Press save button on the current screen.
Shipment cost settlement and documents:
Use
After the shipment cost settled in shipment cost document, it has the following affects:
It creates a service entry sheet that refers to the purchase order determined.
It posts acceptance of services performed.
It creates an accounting document for the accruals.
Further subsequent documents are created in FI.
Create Delivery:
T.code: Vl01n
Create TO:
T.code: LT03
Create Shipment Document
Use
After the status of the delivery is open for transportation planning, it is possible to create a shipment document to schedule the transportation.
 Transportation Planning  Create Single document Logistics Logistic Execution Transportation
T.code: VT01n
Enter your transportation planning point and shipment type. Press enter.
Creating the shipment cost document
Use
After the deliveries are scheduled by shipment and the shipment is executed, now it is time to maintain and close the shipment document in order to record all relative information and ready for the shipment cost settlement.
Single document Logistics Logistic Execution  Transportation Shipment cost Create
T.code: VI01.
After creation of shipment cost doc. You settle the Shipment cost.
Go to VI02, enter shipment cost no.and press enter.
Then go to Overview -- Fright cost items, Select the line item and double click it.
Go as main menu: Item --> Acc. assignment, you enter G/L acc. and cost center to which the transportation cost will be posted.
On the Standard change, details Freight cost items screen, then check the check box Transfer, which means you will transfer the relative transportation cost to FI/CO, in this case, the system should determined which Purchase Order will used to settle the cost, so after you check the Transfer check box.
Press save button on the current screen.
Shipment cost settlement and documents:
Use
After the shipment cost settled in shipment cost document, it has the following affects:
It creates a service entry sheet that refers to the purchase order determined.
It posts acceptance of services performed.
It creates an accounting document for the accruals.
Further subsequent documents are created in FI.
Generally process is-
1) VL01N
2) VT01
3) VL02N - PGI
4) VI01
5) ML81N Service Entry Sheet
6) MIRO Invoice Verification
Shipping docs (VT01) are created before PGI...
You cannot carry out transportation planning or creation of shipment after the goods issue has been executed. Once goods issue is done it means that the material has left your premises so there is no need for a transportation planning after it.
In case you need carry out the shipment documents at the end of the day you could just create the delivery documents during the day and at end of the day create the shipment documents and the goods issue
This link is also usseful:
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/LETRA/SDTRA.pdf
Hope this helps you.
Regards
nitin -
Lead time and Route time estimation used for deliveries
Dear Friends,
Can anybadyu let us know how to estimate lead time and route times for deliveries, and what is the exact meaning of the these two with differences
if possible can you please give me the configuration steps, as i know at this movement route times are maintained in the route and lead times are maintained in the material master MRP view.
what was these field impacts in the delivery..
requesting your view as soon as possible
Thanks
raju.Hi there,
Lead time is the time in which the material will be available. It is called Replenishment lead time RLT. It is maintained in MRP view of material master. RLT can either be inhouse processing time for inhouse manufactured goods or order time + goods receipt processing time for externally procured goods.
Whereas time mentioned in route is used to calculate transit time during delivery scheduling. That is the time taken for the goods to reach customer from shipping point.
Both the times are imp for delivery scheduling.
When the customer places an order, if the material is not available, then the system will take end of RLT as material availability date. From that date, it will carry forward scheduling & propose a new confirmed delivery date.
Regards,
Sivanand
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