Tri-Fire 290X Lightning PSU power
Hi Guys,
I'm new to this Forum over here at MSI, and I'm wondering if any1 could help me with my need
I need to know how much power three 290X Lightnings would consume and what monster of a PSU I'm gonna need for it,...
I already ordered the third GPU with another waterbock.
The deal is this, when I'm benching my system power draw is 1070W (measured @ wall), so there is absolute NO headroom for a third GPU with this PSU -.-
Now i need to know how much power a third OC'd lightning would need, because I don't want to buy a 1500W PSU if a 1350W would also be fine,... (Quad-fire will never happen )
Has anyone experience with three Lightnings and their power consumption?
My current setup:
i7- 3930K @ 4,5Ghz @ 1,29V
2x 8 GB Corsair Dominator Plats 1866 @ 2000 MHz
2x 290X Lightning CF @ 1150/1650 -24/7 stable
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
3xSSD
1xHDD
Corsiar HX1050 PSU
Cooling:
1x Aquacompuer aquaduct 360XT with 3x120mm fans @1200RPM
1x MO-RA 1280 Rad with 9x140mm fans @800 RPM
1x EKWB CPU Block
2x EKWB Lightning Block
1x EKWB 3-Way GPU Bridge
Many thanks in advance
e4gle
A system with a single reference design R9-290X requires 33A and a 600W psu. For a Lightning make it 40A and a 600W. Any further Lightning will add 20A more. A psu for triple Crossfire with 290X Lightnings should therefor offer 80A and 1000W minimum. The Corsiar HX1050 is therefor on the edge of it's possibilities but should work if no excessive oc is planned.
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As I've said in my first post requesting the new VBIOS that fixes the fan issues, I have recently gotten an MSI R9 290X Lightning.
I have had these problems since day 1, but I figured the new BIOS might help so I didn't mention them in my first post.
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- Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1Quote from: wengshunfeng on 29-December-14, 04:40:08
I had same problems on my both R9 290X lighting just brought 1 month ago :(
I think it was software(driver) problem, because 2 cards both active for heavy gaming (BF4) is fine without any problems. But if I play online 3D games that does not have CF profiles, and only single card active, my pc will randomly sudden shut down and restart. The card temperature was around 50C.
Both cards running with Core i7 5960x + Asus x99 R5E + EVGA 1200W P2 PSU.
I'm sure it was not caused by my other hardwares, because I use GTX 780 before without any problem, also I used DDU in safe mode to uninstall Nvidia drivers before swap cards.
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For reference:
My Current System:
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MOBO - ASUS M4A78LT-M
RAM - 2x4GB Kingston Hyper-X Blu
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PSU - Cooler Master Silent Pro M, 700 Watt, 80+ (Bronze) - NOTE: Yes the CM PSU does have two separate 8 pin PCI connectors (Each cable has 6+2 and 6 pin connectors)Sounds like your PSU!
I myself am running an 850 Watt PSU, and with the beast of a card the Lightning is, 700 May truly not be enough.
PCI-E Gen 3.0 cards are backwards compatible with Gen 2.0, so that is not the issue. Up until last week I was running the Lightning on an Asus Saber-tooth 990 FX R2.0 board which is Gen 2.0 and had no issues. But my UPS battery alarm would go crazy when I fired up a game. This never happened when i had even 2 x GTX 780 cards in SLI, so this card alone is still pulling more juice than my system ever had (even with SLI 780's). So I would really suspect your PSU is the culprit here.
What drivers are you running? I had Bluescreen with the latest 14.6 betas and eyefinity......
(And why don't you like Amazon's logistics, I find amazon the be one of the BEST on-line e-tailors I have ever used) -
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GPU-z shows this:
and when i hover my mouse over it says its working in PCI-Express x1 v1.1 mode yet it also says it supports x16 v3.0.
Thx ahead.
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//speedy.sh/hTRNt/Hawaii.rom - saved under LN2 mode
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the 290x runs Fantastic, always had lightning cards past 8 years or so.
my problem is:
when im at desktop, and I click on a small piture to open it, I see it open with hesatation or jerking'ness as the pix opens.
I think u guys use other wording for what im saying.....
I have switched drivers did a clean install using DDU from 3d Guru Im on 14.12s now seems much better, the problem occures once in a while, if I goto CC and click on amd steady viedo and then uncheck it and apply......im back to normal for a while, my 7970 had this problen to but not as bad as 290x.....
when I have no driver installed and Im on just w7 driver, I see this happen once in a while... right now installed 14.12 omegas
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I can still rma card
Thank you GentlmenQuote from: EricUSA on 02-January-15, 08:12:07
Thanks Boss i will get right on it.....
Did a clean install using DDU, installed 14.12 omegas, working Excellent so far! problem so far Resolved
I see your actually running around the World saving Everybody on this site, Excellent Job you do Mod!
Have Good 2015 Sir
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Hey guys I currently have 1 MSI 290x Lightning. A friend of mine just sold me his ASUS Rog Swift 27" 2560x1440 144hz monitor so I want to purchase another 290x lightning, will my EVGA Supernova 1000 G2 PSU be enough??
Quote from: flobelix on 04-January-15, 01:51:31
First of all please don't open multiple topics on the same issue. The one in Gaming (as you don't have a Gaming series vga) has been removed.
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http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3822263Well the last post pics did not show up sorry here they are:
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