TRI SLI MSI 580 GTX Twin Frozr II

Hello everyone,
Actually running 3 x GTX 570 MSI OC, with reference cooler and getting great temps under load.
Going to change the three of them with 3 MSI 580 GTX Twin Frozr II.
I've read bad experiences with this kind of cooler and SLI.
Is it a good a idea tu run TRI SLI with this type of cooler (Twin Frozr II) or should I look for three 580 with reference cooler??
Thanks for any answers or idead.
My specs:
- Corsair AX1200
- Lian Li Pc-80
- Gigabyte X58 UD7

Thanks for the reply. I watched that video but also watched this one:
He says the cards get up to 100ºC.
I know twin frozr works better than reference wit just one card, but with TRI SLI the cards being so closed and the cooler not sending the air out of the case (like the reference cooler does), maybe not the best solution.
Trying to confirm before I buy the three of them.

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Hi everyone
I was wondering what the default voltage is on the core these days for this card. I'm aware that there was a new BIOS a while back to increase it for "improved GPU stability".
I only ask as I've just had to return a Gigabyte 580 GTX OC that was not stable at the stock vid (IE. 1V). Was OK running 1.025v but I did not think / want to have to edit the BIOS myself to get it to run at stock speeds.
So... now thinking about buying the MSI 580 GTX twin Frozr but wondering what the stock GPU voltage is on cards being sold at the moment?
I've has an MSI 460 GTX HAWK for a while now and have been very happy with it (come to that... my mobo is an MSI one now as well). But don't want to have to go through a lot of heartache and wasted time again.
Thanks in advance.

Quote from: mikedowen on 29-July-11, 00:14:06
Hi
Just thought that I would just say "thank you" for your assistance / comments. It is appreciated.
I did in the end purchase the MSI 580 GTX OC Twin Frozr and all would appear to be fine (2 hours of looping 3Dmark11 should = fully stable I hope). I was just a bit windy having gone through the hassle of purchasing one make of card and having to return it.
The default voltage according to Afterburner is 1.038v, a fair bit higher than the Gigabyte card. I've also noticed that the default fan profile is a fair bit less aggressive than on the 460 HAWK, so don't feel that I need to set one up myself for the 580 (like I did for the 460 HAWK).
So all told pretty happy at the moment.
Thanks again
test it more deeper, look here: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=148285.msg1102468#msg1102468
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The default voltage according to Afterburner is 1.038v, a fair bit higher than the Gigabyte card.
It's not brand related, its luck and draw depend of unit itself.

MSI N580 GTX TWIN FROZR II Opengl error

Hi i keep getting Opengl lost connection error (error #8) while trying to run one of my games but the card seems stable in other games. i think it might be a voltage problem but not sure.
GPU:MSI N580 GTX TWIN FROZR II
CPU: I5 2500k (still at stock settings)
MB: GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD5-B3 LGA 1155
Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
HD:SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
PSU:CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V v2.2
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OS: Windows7 64bit
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Quote from: Wodian on 13-May-11, 03:16:50
yes i am logged in with admin rights not sure why its exiting.
if i run info 2 it says Invalid Display adapter index specified.
on info1 i see the info pop up but like i said it exits to fast for some reason
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on info1 i see the info pop up but like i said it exits to fast for some reason
if you follow what's i've wrote here:
Quote from: Svet on 13-May-11, 02:52:47
run an "cmd", then goto extracted folder then type:
nvflash.exe -v [ENTER]
you will able to see it.
Other way is get GPU-Z ==> http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2018/TechPowerUp%20GPU-Z%20v0.5.4.html
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Click on the icon:
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MSI N570 GTX TWIN FROZR II/ OC WRONG CLOCKS ON BIOS

My N570 GTX Twin Frozr II/ OC is with wrong clocks, real is 750/4000mhz, and this one is 786/4200mhz. I really need help to flash it to normal clocks.

see here: https://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/msi-nvidia-graphics-cards-from-570-580-series-read-here

Msi 570 gtx twin frozr II series

will msi release 570 gtx with the twin frozr II cooler if so when ?

They did with the 470 so no doubt will with the 570 too. For a release date you'll need to ask MSI: >>How to contact MSI<<.

Msi n570 gtx twin frozr 3 pe/oc

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cheers!

Quote from: mejinuf on 19-September-11, 02:11:43
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N210-MD1G-D3.html there you go.
145*84*18 mm [n210]
vs
243*115*42mm [n570 power edition]
heigh marked with red
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i have the geforce n210 which is 2 cm away from touching the cpu cooler (Noctua NH-D14)
115-84=31mm
N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC is 3.1cm higher than your current N210-MD1G/D3,
if 2cm is the current away distance from the cooler, the newer card wont fit and with this CPU cooler.
Solution = Change the CPU cooler to more normal one that will not enter in VGA's personal space...
A normal CPU cooler should be not such large to enter and spread above the video card personal space....

Red Screen with SLI MSI GTX560 Ti Twin Frozr II/OC

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A few days ago I received the two cards I mentioned in the title of the thread.
I proceeded to uninstall the current drivers on my PC and remove the GTX285, then mount the two GTX560 and install the latest drivers 285.62 (SO Windows Seven 64-bit).
Basically I have a problem, especially when I play Crysis 2 (but I also happened with other games) that the display turns red, as you can see here.
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What can be?
I also wanted to know one thing: one of the card has problems of dissipation, it also has temperatures of 20° C above the other (tested individually).
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Davide
ps: sorry for my english

I got to do other tests. Consider that I have 2 monitors connected (Asus VK246H and Samsung TV HD Ready) and the problem occurs only the Asus monitor.
In summary:
A single card: Ok
With SLI active: No
With SLI off: Ok
Connecting via VGA cable: Ok
Changing the DVI cable: No
To which I add these others:
Changing the SLI connector (with an identical one, Asus 08G160001240): No
By connecting the monitor to the secondary card: Ok (the same as flipping cards, keeping the monitor connected to the primary vga the problem occur itself, connected to the secondary does not occur).
By connecting the monitor with an HDMI cable instead of DVI: Ok
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It could be a problem of DVI on the monitor? And if so, why does it only with SLI enabled, there is difference in the signal that comes from a single VGA and the signal that comes from a VGA with SLI enabled?

580 GTX Twin Frozer II SLI heat issue

Hi.
I just bought another 580 GTX Twin Frozer II card becouse i thought the first one had artifacts issue.
First of all, both card gets a artifact look a like after a couple hours playing BF3, i read that this may have something to do whit Nvidia drivers so thats ok.
Both card has a idle temp at 35 degreds and load temp at 67 degreds, single testing.
When running the cards in SLI mode the idle temp of mastercard is 46 degreds and load 88 degreds, slave card idle is 35 degreds and load 78 degreds.
Is this right and safe degreds? I find it strange that the temp is so diffrent from single to SLI, both cards looks stable after som hours playing.
Also the fan is running at max when it reaches 80 degreds.
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Core Voltage mV - 1025
Core Clock - 800MHz
Shader Clock - 1600MHz
Memory Clock - 2048MHz
Driver version - 285.79
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Bios slavecard - 70.10.17.00.01
Best regards
Øystein from Norway.

Thanks for the reply. I watched that video but also watched this one:
He says the cards get up to 100ºC.
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Trying to confirm before I buy the three of them.

MSI GTX Twin Frozr 780 Fan not spinning

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MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC: Graphical Glitches/Corruption

Hello, I bought and installed an MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC video card one week ago. For the last week, it has been running perfectly, but today when I started up a game the 3D graphics began glitching and showing random stretched triangles and distorted models. While the 3D graphics are running, the monitor randomly loses signal from the video card and occasionally the program will crash with a popup bubble stating that the NVIDIA driver has recovered from a problem.
After reading through some posts here, I downloaded the MSI Afterburner program, enabled voltage monitoring, and set everything to defaults.
The defaults are:
Core Voltage: 1000 mV
Core Clock : 880 MHz
Shader Clock : 1760 MHz
Memory Clock : 2100 MHz
When I click the button to run a Kombuster stability test, the 3D has the same graphical glitches that I saw in my games. Here is a screenshot:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww333/MP64x2/corrupted_880.jpg
I tried lowering the Core Clock speed and retrying the test. It appears that the level of corruption is proportional to the clock speed. At the minimum clock speed of 440 MHz, the graphics are almost perfect, however a glitch or two will still occasionally show up.
Here is the test at Core Clock = 705 MHz: http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww333/MP64x2/corrupted_705.jpg
and at 440 MHz: http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww333/MP64x2/corrupted_440.jpg
- I've tried bumping up the Core Voltage a little to around 1020 mV, but it doesn't seem to have any effect.
- Lowering the Memory Clock also reduces glitches, but they never go away completely.
- Even at the absolute minimum clock settings, my games still glitch and crash.
- I do not have access to another system that I can try the video card in.
System Info
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz
MoBo: Abit IP35 Pro - LGA775, Intel P35, FSB1333
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Video S/N: 602-V238-130B1103126135
Video BIOS: 70.24.11.00.00
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Hard Disks: 2x 640GB Western Digital WD6401AALS
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Power Supply:
OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI 700W
+3.3@36A,+5V@30A,+12V1@18A,+12V2@18A,+12V3@18A,+12V4@18A,[email protected],[email protected]
As I type this I'm starting to get corruption right on my desktop too, with random pixels changing color and black rectangles appearing on applications.
From what I've read in other threads, it seems like my power supply may not be sufficient since it has multiple 12V rails, but before I spend ~$100 on a new one I thought I'd see if anyone had any other thoughts.

Quote from: MP64 on 22-April-11, 03:46:20
I have an interesting update on my original problem.
A week after I reseated the card, the graphical glitches returned. I turned the computer off, reseated the card again, turned it on, and it began working fine.
Another week goes by with no problems, and then a couple days ago the glitches came back. Thinking it strange that the card could somehow take approximately the same amount of time to cause the same kind of bad connection, I wondered if there was something else that was causing the glitches to temporarily disappear.
I tried rebooting my computer, but the glitches remained.
I then completely turned off my computer and pulled out the power cord and left it for a couple minutes. I didn't open the case at all and made sure not to do anything that would bump any components. I turned the computer back on - glitches are gone once again.
So, it would seem that it may in fact have something to do with the power supply and not any bad connections with the card itself - at least, that's the best guess I have at the moment. I leave my computer on 24/7 so it seems like it doesn't like being left on for an entire week with this new video card installed.
Does this sound sensible? Is it possible for a power supply to slowly fail over several days, only to start working again after being powered down for a couple minutes?
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I also run my pc 24/7 and this problem is getting very annoying! My PSU shouldn't be a problem as I have the PC & Cooling 750W...
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MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II OC causes system to freeze

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EXCELERAM 2x2GB E30101B (XMP selected in BIOS - 1600MHz)
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BIOS request for 2×MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC V238-059R

Dear sir or madam,
Please provide me the BIOS for the MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC V238-059R. I have two of them. My system now sees them as NVIDIA GeForce GTX560 Ti (no OC). I can't update drivers anymore.
The serial numbers are:
S/N:602-V238-35SB1201030210
S/N:602-V238-35SB1201030151
The NVFlash output is:
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.190)
Simplified Version For OEM Only
BIOS Versions of NVIDIA display adapters present in system:
<0> GeForce GTX 560 Ti (10DE,1200,1462,2382) --:NRM 70.24.2E.00.02
<1> GeForce GTX 560 Ti (10DE,1200,1462,2382) --:NRM 70.24.2E.00.02
Thank you in advance!
Sebastiaan Smit

latest vbios version attached below
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I have two of them. My system now sees them as NVIDIA GeForce GTX560 Ti (no OC).
there is no OC driver, it just detect the name.
this is not issue

Freeze Msi Hd 7950 Twin Frozr III v2

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Been noticing lately that i've come across a nasty 280.26 Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding issue with my 570 SLI.
Some people running the 280.26 drivers have also reported, while others have said increasing voltage has fixed their problem.
Could I get some support in finding out how/what to set my voltages too?
The cards are 570 GTX Twin Frozr II OCs. I did get a bios update earlier in the year after some problems, they were clocked at the wrong speed. (786mh instead of 750mhz)
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Quote from: Arthur Hucksake on 02-September-11, 18:12:57
You say the voltage range is upto 1.25mv , but how can a game be unstable but not make use of the 1.25mV barrier? Who is responsible for using the extra voltage when required?
People state they are increasing their mV to make some DX 11 games stable, but how?
If what your telling me, is that the cards are already set to use an increased voltage, why aren't they doing so?
As you can see, under load.... the higher mV range isn't used so the overclocks on the cards are pointless. The more games which come out that use DX11, the more problems you will get.
If it's down to drivers, someone needs to get onto nVidia from a corporate or business level because they won't respond to the end user, they just blame you guys for everything.
Quote from: Arthur Hucksake on 02-September-11, 18:12:57
You say the voltage range is upto 1.25mv , but how can a game be unstable but not make use of the 1.25mV barrier? Who is responsible for using the extra voltage when required?
Read again my replies, seems you misread most of the parts
Quote from: Arthur Hucksake on 02-September-11, 21:09:00
To add to that, I have to set the voltage to 1.00mv in Afterburner and to get Deus Ex HR more stable with the 280.26 drivers.
So what gives? Is it safe to update the bios to 1.00mv somehow?
Why are these problems only getting found out with the 280.26 drivers?
Where does the customer stand here? There's a direct problem with power handling by all parties involved.
Quote from: Arthur Hucksake on 02-September-11, 21:09:00
To add to that, I have to set the voltage to 1.00mv in Afterburner and to get Deus Ex HR more stable with the 280.26 drivers.
So what gives? Is it safe to update the bios to 1.00mv somehow?
Yes it is, you can use my Tool in signature to do this

Do I need a bios update? N580 GTX twin frozr II/OC crashing to desktop

Hello,after reading many threads on 580 stabillity problems,i changed my core voltage from 1000mv too 1025mv,on my new graphics card as i had games crashing to desktop,i have seen no overheating 65c average in game temp with system fans at low speed.i have ran at this setting for 3 days without any problems i can see.
N580 GTX twin frozr II/OC sn:602-v255-01SB1101223131
========= GeForce Information ==========
GPU 1: GeForce GTX 580
GPU 1 Video BIOS version: 70.10.17.00.01
========== GPU's Core and Memory Speed Information ==========
GPU Core Speed = 800
GPU Memory Speed = 2048
GPU Shader Clock Speed = 1600
thank you for your time and hope this information helps to answer my question

Quote from: Metasparks on 10-March-11, 07:11:10
@SVet, I can do that if I get any issue. Just installed the card on a new machine and was thinking preventitive. I had heard that the N580GTX/OC had stabilitiy issues that required bios upgrades. Before I start crashing my machine, I was hoping to just go with a bios change that has worked for someone else.
It can't be used as each VGA is unique and require custom attention if issue occur.

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