Trim Edit

Can someone please help with a Trim Edit problem. I am using Final Cut Express 4.
I wanted to insert a transition between two clips but I did not have 'handles' on them. So, I have clicked on the 'join' between two clips and brought up the 'Trim Edit' window. I wanted to adjust the 'Out' point on the outgoing clip and the 'In' point on the incoming clip. Based on my reading of the manual, I should have been able to adjust these points by dragging either the 'marker' or the 'scrubber', this creating 'handles' in one hit. I have tried everything without success. I can only adjust the 'ends' either in the Viewer (by trimming) or in the Timeline by cutting. that seems rather clumsy. I would have thought that i should be able to adjust the end points in the Trim Edit window.
Help would be greatly appreciated.
Belatamas

Look at the green bars above the images in the trim edit window. The green bars indicate what's selected to edit. Green bar on the left you're trimming the outgoing shot. Green bar on the right you're trimming the incoming shot. Green bar over both you're rolling the edit points, which you can't do if there isn't enough handles. Click on the left so the green bar is over the outgoing shot. Move the playhead back into the shot 15 frames and press O to mark a new Out point. Or click the trim buttons three times. Click on the right side to trim the incoming shot. Move the playhead and press I to mark in the In point, or click the trim buttons to trim the shot by 15 frames.

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