Trim marks in Photoshop CS4

Is it possible to make trim marks in Illustrator CS4, so my client will have them on my artwork, ready for the printer he uses? With the instructions I've found, I can put crop marks through Effects, but they line up at the edges of the art, not as indicating bleed. When I click on crop marks in Appearance, which is supposed to allow me to edit the marks, nothing happens, so I can't move the marks. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks.
Ron

Crop marks aren't really a live effect. Their presence in the Appearance panel only tips you that they weren't constructed manually. To control where your crop marks land so that they serve as trim marks, make a rectangle the size of the media with no fill or stroke and apply the Crop Marks effect to that.

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Trim Marks - feature lost in CS4

Going back many versions in Illustrator, we had only Crop Marks. Then (thankfully) we got Trim Marks which allowed multiple sets of marks on the same page, all selectable. The command moved around from one menu to another, but not in CS4 it's just gone completely. The Crop Marks we have now in CS4 only allow one per page, and they are not selectable, and, if you happen to make a guide out of the bounding box you used to create the Crop Marks, the crop marks vanish.
Simple layouts for a defined area have always worked well on a single letter size layout by drawing the bounding boxes, let's say for a business card and an envelope and a shipping label, making trim marks (or the Filter->Crop Marks) and then converting the three bounding boxes to Guides.
Can't do that no more. Why? Why oh why would Adobe take away a feature that has worked so well for so many years. And don't tell me about multiple artboards. I get how they could be used, but that is no excuse for eliminating the feature.

Mac: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4617
Win: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4618

Photoshop CC - supplied Jpeg at 6.5"Hx9.5"w. Need to add trim marks for printer at 6"x9". How?

I have a jpeg which is 6.5" high x 9.5" wide. I need to insert trim marks at 6" x 9" leaving a .125" bleed. I am new to Photoshop but not a complete idiot. I've watched countless videos but don't see how to do this with art already done by someone else.
Is there anyone who can guide me?

Both seem appropriate. The issue is, the person creating the original art knew less of the software than I. And I just started.
The original art she provided is 9.5"wide x 6.5"high. She increased the surface area to allow for .125 bleeds and excess but the image went all the way to the edge of the canvas. I was simply trying to add trims marks for the purpose of cutting in the proper position.
This was for internal printing on a digital press. Because I would be the only person handling the materials from start to finish (including cutting) I wasn't worried about having to translate the layout on the press sheet.
I ended up deleting all of the text and stripping the art down to the bare image which I saved and rebuilt the entire art file from scratch, properly with layers and the correct page size. Which worked out great, because the client made changes that I would otherwise been unable to do.
Thank you all for the information. I'm still a little confused on how to simply add crop marks to someone else' artwork, but I have enough information to figure it out now.

Test: Using Crop marks in indesign CS4 with Epson 3800 Mac 10.5.7

Jun 19, 2009 9:35 PM
Crop marks using indesign CS4 with Epson 3800 Mac 10.5.7
My crop marks and pages are printing larger than my document sizes. My paper size is 13x19, so I should have crop marks at the exact corners of the page sizes. But indesign is printing the entire document larger. So my document which is 11x14.75 is now printing 11.25x15.5. All my settings are correct. So, is anyone else using an Epson 3800 with CS4 indesign having issues such as the above? And can I ask (beg) a few of you to do a test print with crop marks and let me know the results?
My workflow has been completely stalled because I can't get my pages to print the right sizes with the crop marks at the right measurements. I'm printing a photo portfolio on the Lumijet double sided paper and "when" it did work awhile back sometime several months ago, the finals looked great. I've already reinstalled both the Epson 3800 driver and the Indesign CS4 software, but the results are still the same.
So, here are my settings:
document size: 11x14.75
in the print panel:
Printer: Epson 3800
Setup: Paper size: Super A3/B13x19, scale 100% width & height, page position Centered
Marks & Bleed: Marks: "Crop Marks" checked. offset: 0, weight: .25, Bleed and Slug: Use Document bleed settings, include slug area. The bleed is 0 for top, bottom, left and right
Color Management: Document profile: Adobe RGB, Options: Indesign handles colors, Printer Profile: (A custom made profile using Xrite for the 3800 with Lumijet paper)
The settings on the Epson 3800
Epson 3800 Printer
Presets (set for the profile mentioned above)
No Color management
Sometimes, on a whim, the printer and indesign cooperate together like good little children should. But not often. And I can not conclude why they are nice to each other sometimes, but given the same detailed data at other times, they fight.
If anyone could run through a similar process using indesign with a photo layout and setting up the printer settings for both the Epson 3800 and in the indesign program and let me know their results, I would value your conclusions very much. You don't even have to waste paper or ink. Finally, after wasting so many pages of paper and of ink. I deleted the photos from the page, and printed it blank with only the crop marks for me to measure if it was coming out right or not.
Thank you for any response. And feel free to call me if you want to vent about Epson 3800's or about Indesign CS4 anytime! I'm up late.... 646 256 8853.
Thaddeus

I specified the paper size as strictly 13x19, no boarderless, no retain size. Same problem. I also did as you suggested below. The pdf document does remain true to the document. As a pdf doc. I changed the color mgmt to Adobe rgb 1998. It looks okay, but not as lively as I get when printing correctly with my color mgmt working and in sync.
Your final question about simply using photoshop. Well... I might go back to it and give up on Indesign if this is the case that it won't simply crop my documents to the sizes that I input them to be cropped as. But, I am using Indesign so that I can create a page layout that I can't do in Photoshop. My folio is about 25 or more pages with double page spreads. I am printing on a two-sided Lumijet paper and my folio was custom designed to be cut out at 11x14.75. If and when it is printed correctly, I am printing on both sides of the paper and trimming it to exact size.
It sounds as if you have exhausted the potential problems and don't have a clear explanation for why the doc isn't printing correctly in Indesign either with the color mgmt. or the document sizes. I'll try one more print using a different color profile similar enough to get at minimum, an okay print. If it doesn't print at least okay, then it isn't most likely my profile..... Okay done. Crazy. The color is inaccurate, but for some reason or another, the document size printed correctly. It measured exactly 11x14.75. What I have done during this period of time is:
First) I did as you suggested and turned the Print to Adobe PDF 9 and created a print there. I measured it and it did measure correctly. I didn't love the color, but... at least it is measuring correctly.
Second) I turned the Printer back to Epson 3800 (I'm beginning to think that this simple gesture was what caused the printer to print correctly) I didn't change any settings, but I did make sure that they were set correctly as before. The paper size was set to 13x19. When I make sure this setting is right in the "printer" dialogue for the Epson 3800, and then switch back to ID, the printer dialogue in Id changes to "Define by Printer." But I changed nothing, other than the profile to an older one that I used before. The color is still inaccurate, but at least for two prints just now back to back, the measurements were correct. What to do? Lol.
Thanks again for all of your time spent trying to resolve this issue.
Sincerely,
Thaddeus

Photoshop CS4 - Licensing Error 150:30

I have a MacBook with the OS X Maverick Operating System and have had no prior issues using my Photoshop CS4. My computer recently crashed and had to have my operating system re-installed. I tried to open up Photoshop today and this window popped up: "Licensing for this product has stopped working". I tried restarting the computer like the window mentioned and that did nothing. I also tried the solutions listed on the Adobe website for the Error: 150:30 and nothing has worked. My main problem is I cannot finish the "solutions" because I cannot locate the folder "FlexNet" or "FlexNet Licensing" or anything of that nature that is referred to in the solutions.

The Licensing repair tool does work. OSX 10.7 and above:
Download and open LicenseRecovery111.dmg on your Desktop
Open Terminal and type sudo and leave a space. <do not press "Enter" yet>.
Open the License Folder on the opened LicenseRecovery111.dmg and drag
"LicenseRecover.py" file into the Terminal Window.
The sudo command and path to the .py file should look like the screenshot below.
Press Enter to begin
Type in your password, but know that you will not see dots or asterisks as you type.
Press Enter again, let the script run and finish. You should be able to run Photoshop now.
(If this answer solves it, mark it as "correct" or get back to me if it doesn't.)

I had lightroom 4 and Photoshop CS4 I downloaded cc and trialled it and then uninstalled since then I cannot read/open my Canon cr2 files and

I trialled cc Photoshop.
I had Photoshop CS4
and lightroom 4.4.
I used LR4 and cc as well as CS4 during that time
BUT
when I uninstalled cc
after initial work in LR4
I try to open it in PS4
it no longer recognise my Cr2 (Canon Mark 111 tif files)
(which it had no problem with previously.
When I try to go from LR$ to PSCS4
it now tell me
this version of Lightroom may require the Photoshop Camera Raw plug-in version 7.4 for full compatibility.
Please update the Camera Raw plug in using the update tool in the Photoshop help menu.
Ihave downloaded this off the net but it does not seem to solve the issue
HELP!!!

G'day Curt,
I smacked myself on the forehead when I read your reply. How could I have forgotten to do that? However, after trying that, the problem persists and more files are corrupting. I now have around ten files of around 200 in a party folder I have that have corrupted. They all were perfect several days ago.
I'm starting to get worried as I work for the local rag and have social pics this weekend to process. I can't afford to let this happen to them.
Thanks for the suggestion....
Onslow

Canon 5D Mark II, Photoshop CS3 and Lightroom 2.4

All,
I know that this has to have been answered elsewhere, but I have not found what I'm looking for.
I have purchased a new Canon 5D Mark II camera which will arrive Wednesday. As far as software on my Mac Pro, I have Adobe Creative Suite 3 Design Premium, which includes (obviously) Photoshop CS3. I am also running Lightroom 2.4. I am under the understanding that in order to open RAW files from the 5D Mark II, you need to have Adobe Camera Raw 5.X, which is not supported by Photoshop CS3. I also understand that Lightroom 2.4 CAN open the 5D Mark II RAW files. First off, are both of my statements to this point accurate? If so, can I use Lightroom to open the RAW files, do whatever adjusting I would like in Lightroom, then export the modified file (in TIFF, for example) to Photoshop CS3, and go on my way? Or will this not work?
If the answer is no, what are my options for using the software that I have with my Canon 5D Mark II? Am I REQUIRED, now, to upgrade to Photoshop CS4? If so, can I buy the CS4 Upgrade for Design Premium, if my CS3 Design Premium is the Education version?
Thanks for any help on this...I'm hoping to avoid spending any more money than I need to in software just to be able to process images from my new camera. I'm sure I could always use the Canon supplied software to open the RAW files, but I'd prefer to do so in the Adobe family of programs.

cabasner,
I upgraded to CS4 when I got my 5D2, and I can't stress enough how much better CS4 is. It's worth the upgrade even if you didn't get the 5D2. It's more stable that CS3, and ACR is insanely better (as is the Bridge... that's actually usable now!). ACR in CS4 has Adjustment brushes for Exposure... that's right, touch-up areas in ACR and it's totally non-destructive. Vibrance has been added also. In PS, your Dodge & Burn tools have a totally new algorithm which works so much better it's nuts. You even have a Legacy checkbox to see the difference. With the insane amount of image data in the 5D2, those tools work very well. You also have OpenGL support in CS4 now, which means you can view the image at any percentage and it looks like 25/50/75/100. And since your graphics card is now used, Photoshop CS4 is FASTER. And with the Clone Tool you can see what will be put down on the image inside the tool's circle, BEFORE you press the mouse. Talk about an easy way to line up the edit! Oh, then there's all the Adjustment layers... man, talk about a non-destructive time-saving edit! And the panels now stay off to the side, not covering up the image anymore. There's more, I'm, not even remembering everything. Adobe got PS right with this version. I would spring for CS4 in a New York minute, it's the perfect partner for our 5D2s.

Opening EOS 5D Mark II is CS4?

I wonder if somebody could help me please. I would like to buy photoshop CS4 for my husband for his birthday (just a couple of weeks a way), but I don't know if it's the right thing or not. My husband has just upgraded his camera (from an EOS 5D to an EOS 5D Mark II), he's never had a problem opening the EOS 5D images in photoshop cs3, but can't open the EOS 5D Mark II images. I read that he needs camera raw 5, but that is only compatable with cs4. Is this true? What he wants to do is take a photo with his camera and then open the raw file in photoshop without loosing any quality at all (I guess this will mean keeping it as a psd?). Will cs4 do that?
Sorry if I'm asking a lot of questions but I really want to get the right thing for him.
Thanks in advance.

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Does the CS4 Master collection come with it? And if so, where can I find it? If not, is there a workaround to deal with the RAW files to be able to work with them?
Yikes, I'm caught! I admit, I personally haven't used the DNG converter, so I don't know if it's on the DVDs for the Suite. I would think it SHOULD be, and if it is, it'd be on the last DVD, probably in the "Goodies" folder. If not, there are a couple of workarounds: the main one is to grab the disc that came with your 5D Mark II and install DPP (Canon's Digital Photo Professional). It's the software Canon provides to work with RAW files. You can save the RAW file as a TIFF, then deal with it in Photoshop at that point. In fact, you can open Bridge, and tell it to open your new TIFF file in Camera RAW so you can apply many of the same edits as with a RAW file.
Just curious, can't you open your RAW files straight away with Camera RAW? You have the CS4 Suite, and that's compatible with 5D2 RAW files...

I have CS4 and was using a Canon 5D Mark II with raw photos. I just got the Canon 5D Mark III and CS4 now can not read the raw photos. It has raw version 5.7.0.213 and CS4 version 11.0.2. Can anyone help?

I have CS4 and was using a Canon 5D Mark II with raw photos. I just got the Canon 5D Mark III and CS4 now can not read the raw photos. It has raw version 5.7.0.213 and CS4 version 11.0.2. Can anyone help?

Camera Raw plug-in | Supported cameras
Camera Raw-compatible Adobe applications
EOS 5D Mark II
CR2
5.2
2.2
EOS 5D Mark III
CR2
6.7, 7.1
4.1
Photoshop CS6
7.0
8.3
Photoshop CS5
6.0
6.7
Photoshop CS4
5.0
5.7
The 5D Mark II was first supported by Camera Raw 5.2 which is compatible with CS4+.
The 5D Mark III was first supported by Camera Raw 6.7 and 7.1 which is only compatible with CS5 and CS6.
So the CS4 will never be able to open Raw 5D Mark III files.
Why doesn’t my version of Photoshop or Lightroom support my camera?
Choices:
Purchase CS6 full version (CS4 is too old to qualify for an upgrade)
Join the Cloud
Free option: download the free Adobe DNG converter, convert all 5D Mark III Raw files to DNG format then edit the DNGs in CS4
Photoshop Help | Digital Negative (DNG)

How get Permission to install plug in in Photoshop CS4?

I recently uploaded the plug in (Raw 5.2) for my new camera Canon 5D Mark II. Photoshop CS4 do not allow me to install in the required folder (plug in,file format). I get a message staying I do not have permission. How I change this in my computer (Windows 7). I loader plug ins before, but do not had this problem.
Thanks for any help.

First, you should definitely install the latest, Camera Raw 5.7. You can do so by visiting this page:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4683
Secondly, if you're experiencing permissions problems you could try running the updater (or Explorer, if you're just copying files) As Administrator or [temporarily] disabling UAC.
-Noel

Photoshop CS4 - new report, old problems

Hi there,
although i have posted many of the following problems in another thread, i will recall them here, because the other thread has gone slightly off-topic.
I have been "using" Photoshop CS4 that came as part of my Production Suite Premium Package for as long as it is out now and i have to say, that for me it is the worst release ever.
I work with Photoshop since Version 3 and every new release has had it's flaws that were fixed after a while. So i really hope this might also be the case with CS4.
So here are my System Specs again:
Intel Dualcore E8600
NVIDIA Geforce 9800 GX2 (Driver: 180.48)
MSI P35 Neo-2 Motherboard (Bios: 1.90)
3 GB RAM
Wacom Intuos 3 A4 (Driver: pro610-5)
Windows XP (Service Pack 3)
The System is brandnew, the Windows-Installation is fresh, before the CS4 Suite there has not been another Adobe-Program on the machine.
While I am quiet happy with the other programs (Illustrator, Flash, After Effects..even Bridge is starting to become useful), Photoshop CS4 shows several glitches and problems on my system. These are:
- If activated, the GPU-OpenGL setting deactivates randomly. There's no obvious reason for this, just in the middle of work, the rotate canvas-tool is no longer available, zooming is no longer smooth. While the box in the preferences is still checked for OpenGL and my graphics-card is recognized correctly, OpenGL features just stop working. After I close and restart Photoshop everything is normal again, until the next time settings are deactivated.
I am so far not able to trace the reason for this behavior, seems to happen quiet random.
- No "marching ants". In the same matter, the "marching ants" of selections sometimes disappear. While this is not a big problem I think i should note it here for reasons of being accurate.
- Brush tool stops working. I have this quiet a lot. While I paint, the Brush suddenly stops working completely. It produces neither strokes nor blotches anymore. In some cases hefty drawing can result in some strange straight lines but the brush tool can only be revived by restarting Photoshop.
- Crashes. I truly honestly haven't had a crash with CS2 and CS3 ONCE. With CS4 crashes seem to be quiet normal at this point. The application simply freezes, mostly while using the transformation tool. Killing it via the windows task manager is the only option.
- Slow redraw. All the above mentioned problems did occur with OpenGL enabled AND disabled. It really makes no difference. So deactivating this new thing doesn't convert Photoshop back into something useful, but into a slower version of CS3. Redraw of images is considerably slower on CS4 without OpenGL, than it was on CS3, although it gets better after some time working with it. Moving a maximized Image around feels very strange, because the build up of the tiles is somehow slow and sluggish.
- Features I used are no longer there or no longer functional. I use Layer-Comps a lot. With activated OpenGL the Script "Layer Comps to Files" does not work. It produces an error-message that reads:
Error 1: Unable to create Window - OS error (1400) Line: 234 -> dlgMain = new Window("dialog", strTitle);
With OpenGL deactivated it suddenly works... no idea why.
In addition some features like the automatic web gallery creation have been removed from Photoshop, but i figured out how to get them back.
While these are the really bad things about the new version (on my system that is, I heard from Mac-Users who are quiet happy with PS CS4 and keep telling me how fast it is on a Mac.....) there are other things, that i don't understand. I reckon, Photoshop cs4 is first of all a Mac-product and the PC-Version is somehow adapted or converted.
Proof of this for me is the new window behavior. Windows steeling focus and blocking sight on palettes is new for a long time PC-User like me. I also don't understand, why maximizing an image does fill the complete screen thus exterminatin

While I can not help remedy your problems, Pickman, I can tell you I have mostly the same problems as you. I am not the only one either. I hear this from my students. Marching ants disappearing is normal now, palettes hiding behind windows seems common nowadays. Photoshop losing focus, a document suddenly refusing to be the front one and having to minimize the other document(s) to have it back, lasso tool suddenly not showing it's tracing mark, it's all horrible. The error 'unable to create window' is very common.
I didn't even mention the fact that it's no longer possible to downsize the Photoshop window by it's top edge, which is utterly annoying when you have multiple windows open as I often have or the fact that when I scale the main Photoshop window, the documents stay in place and that the tooltips often don't work which is confusing for the novices that I train. I thought they had remedied that in CS3, but it's back in CS4. I have been using Photoshop since version 3 (briefly) then 4, 5 et cetera. This is one of the worst releases ever.

Where to legally download adobe photoshop cs4?

I'm trying to install Photoshop CS4 on my new computer as I've already got the serial number and it's installed on my old computer. I've looked everywhere and it seems like i cant download it anymore and using the C:\ProgramData\Adobe file from my old computer on my new one keeps giving me error 1470:20. SO the question remains: where can i download it?

The answer is marked Correct in thread: Re: Photoshop CS4 Extended

Deploying Adobe Photoshop CS4 Extended over Network - issue

Hi all,
I'm hoping anyone can help me with this issue that has plagued me for a few weeks! First of all, here's the details I have:
* Adobe Photoshop CS4 Extended - downloaded media from Adobe website
* Creative Suite Deployment Toolkit - again, downloaded from Adobe website
* Installing to Windows XP with SP3
I ran Creative Suite Deployment Toolkit and set it up including our Volume Licensing key and it output some files including the XML files. I double clicked the AdobeUberInstaller.exe file and it got installed without any issue.
However, when I ran it as silent install via our SMS, it always get stuck at Adobe AIR install with the install log from
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Installers\Adobe Photoshop CS4 11.0 09-02-2009.log
with this at the end of the log file:
[     320] Wed Sep 02 14:12:09 2009 INFO
Checking bootstrapper progress
[     320] Wed Sep 02 14:12:11 2009 INFO
Checking bootstrapper progress
[     320] Wed Sep 02 14:12:13 2009 INFO
Checking bootstrapper progress
[     320] Wed Sep 02 14:12:15 2009 INFO
Checking bootstrapper progress
[     320] Wed Sep 02 14:12:17 2009 INFO
Checking bootstrapper progress
[     320] Wed Sep 02 14:12:19 2009 INFO
Checking bootstrapper progress
and so on, with no end in sight.
I have left it more than hour. I also have left it all day, the log file is always full of it. I even "told" Creative Suite Deployment Toolkit not to install Adobe AIR and it still tries to install it anyway. I checked the AdobeUberInstaller.xml file and it has <Action>donotinstall</Action> marked for Adobe AIR. So I'm not even sure why it's trying to install it.
This happens on a PC that has Adobe AIR installed. I tried on another PC where it doesn't have Adobe AIR installed and I still get the same thing.
I'm running out of ideas how to get this to work and this is why I'm here to seek further help from you... help?
Has anyone seen this issue before and if so, what was the fix to get it to work?
Many thanks,
Tony Sutton

Hi all,
I received this e-mail from Adobe, so I thought I'd share this with you all for future ref.
Air needs to contact Adobe to get a certificate.   I would recommend not installing this as part of the suite and push out seperately. At any rate, if you AIR remotely, you will need to set the proxy to allow for the certification process. The other option might to create a snapshot of Air with the certificate already in place.
Here is KB article on it   http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/408/kb408168.html
Thanks all.

Photoshop CS4 Experience, Problems & Questions

Hi all,
i just installed my Production Suite Premium on the following System (fresh install, clean System, no other versions of Photoshop):
Intel E8500 Dualcore
Nvidia Geforce 9800 GX2 (Driver Version 178.24)
3 GB RAM
Windows XP Professionel SP3
Photoshop has its own Scratchdisk assigned with at least 50 GB free Space.
I know that the 9800 GX2 is considered to be a "Gaming-Card" but as a freelance artist i work for the game-industry on many occasions and I need a decent gaming hardware to test what I am working on. As far as I know, the card meets all requirements for CS4 and Nvidia tells me, that their GPU's are perfect for CS4. (wasn't a problem with any version before, I use Photoshop AND Nvidia-Cards since Photoshop 4)
Here are the things that bug me:
- Photoshop disables the OpenGL Features on random occasions, stating, that it has encountered a problem. This happens either in Two GPU-Mode or One-GPU-Mode.
There's no obvious reason for any errormessage, because IF Open GL is activated it seems to work pretty good, zooming and rotating works quite well and fast. I noticed, that the problem happens either after saving my file or when i open photoshop.
- Photoshop crashed on several occasions mostly concerning heavy transforming of multiple layers. It simply didn't respond anymore in the midst of the transormation-process.
My guess is, that this is also linked to the GPU/Driver. System-Memory is checked, GPU works like a charm in all other applications. CS3 has not once crashed in one year, so i guess it has to do with the changes made in CS4.
Strange thing is, that even with open GL deactivated, the above written problems occur. I would have thought, that with OpenGL dectivated, Photoshop would somehow become kind of CS3 again, but it seems, there had been to much changes to simply disconnect photoshop from it's new OpenGL interface.
Apart from these two Problems, Photoshop CS4 is doing ok. It feels kind of sluggish compared to older versions, but that might also change with some new drivers.
Sad thing is, that the rotate canvas feature and the extended moverange for images, the main reasons why i upgraded to CS4, are only working with
OpenGL activated. I really hope there will be a fix in the near future.
There are other questions concerning PS CS4's usability:
- The Scale-Brush Feature uses alt + right mouse buttons, what seems kind of strange when using a stylus (Even more when using a stylus without buttons like the wacom layout-marker).
I would prefer another combination of keyboard shortcuts plus stylus movement ctrl + alt for example. so far i have not found a way to remap the keys. Am i missing something? Or is this impossible?
- Is there a way to get window behavior back the way it was in CS3? The new way of handling windows is ok, but i liked the old one better. If i disable "floating windows docking" there's no way to maximize a window INSIDE the photoshop workspace. The maximize button on top of every window is right now completely useless because it maximizes the window AND gets rid of all the menus and palettes. I don't see why i want to do that.
That's it. I hope this is useful either for the guys at adobe or for other users. Every new Photoshop-Version has had its problems, i hope that these will just be dealt with like the ones before.
All the best,
Pickman

Photoshop CS4 does cause crashes. I can vouch for that too. When it happens, the first instinct is almost always to assume that something is wrong with the computer and start from there. Comments to this effect are prominent in many threads. It is also Adobe's prevalent approach. So people experiencing these problems will tend not to post on these forums. Statements like 'because there are only a few posts, a significant number of people are not experiencing [these] problems' are therefore unfounded. There simply has not been time yet for people to resolve potential hardware/system problems.
In my case, I started experiencing unexplained crashed with CS3 in July (see below) but it was only when Adobe admitted that they could be partly to blame that I posted my experiences (elsewhere) on this forum.
Anyway, to cut a long story short, I have installed Photoshop CS4 on a newly reformatted HDD containing a fresh clean installation of Windows XP/SP3, fully patched, with everything working hunky dory, and no legacy installations of Photoshop or other CS software to worry about. All the same PS CS4 keeps crashing. The symptoms are unexplained total freeze ups occurring at random. I may get several hours use, sometimes a lot less, before I am forced to reboot and start all over again. Certainly the ability to do any useful work is severely compromised, and yes, the first inclination is to blame the hardware or system installation.
The thing is I had been chasing a similar, probably related, problem with CS3 (possibly caused by cloning my system drive, see http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b6bd8d/ ) while Photoshop was still activated, so I have had several months head start over anyone who may now be experiencing similar problems with CS4. As a result, Dell, whose support has been great throughout, have replaced just about every component under the hood of my PC, certainly everything that could be causing a problem. (GPU, CPU, memory, MB, PSU, disk controller, disk cables...). As a result, I am running a virtually brand new computer. Hardware and system problems have been all but eliminated. I have all the latest drivers for everything. It is virtually a brand new computer!
Yet PS/CS4 keeps crashing for no reason that can be established. Adobe have given me lots of homework to do to try to find out what affects it or remedies there are. It is all very tedious, but so far, nothing...
I am coming to the conclusion that there must be something intrinsically wrong with PS/CS4 that makes it incompatible with some systems and software installations, but not necessarily because of any fault with the latter. I have to say that, after initially trying to push me away, Adobe are being very helpful and clearly want (need?) to get to the bottom of this. The trouble is that when the system locks up, it is completely and utterly paralysed, so any diagnostic and error reporting systems are inoperative. This suggests something beneath or beyond Windows, and, if it is not hardware, this points the finger of blame squarely at the activation software, which uses rootkit technology. (Would this be the same on a Mac, I wonder?)
For the record, my system is a Dell Precision 370 desktop with Dell/Phoenix BIOS A08, 3.2GHz Pentium 4 CPU, Intel 925X chipset, 2MB ECC SDRAM, Nvidia Quadro FX3450 graphics, 2x Seagate 146MB Cheetah 5.5k disks (SCSI) in non-RAID configuration. From the limited experience I have had, it seems perfectly capable of running the software (apart from when it crashes, of course.)

Photoshop CS4 performance issue

HI
we use App-V for almost all of our applications and we work with a local cache mode
as far as I know - the performance of a local application and the virtual application should be the same even if the package is big. a great example is Office 2010 App-V package which works the same as a local installation
We saw that there are some applications that run very slow comparing to a local installation on the same hardware
specifically - Adobe PhotoShop CS4 is a good example. when we load a 10MB picture and try to make a simple task like mark a selection - it takes forever for the application to response!
the weirdest think is that we tried to sequence the application both in App-V 4.6 SP3 and App-V 5.0 SP2 we got the same results. we tried the default things as reset the client's cache or allowing local interaction, com objects... etc.
I really have no idea what else we can do. as I wrote, larger applications work in our environment just fine, but there are some that stuck us. another application that works slower is NIS. I'm not sure if the performance issue is always from
the same reason but I'm trying to figure out what can we do to improve it
would love to get some ideas
Tamir Levy

Hello,
Since Microsoft made this claim (as stated by you), my recommendation to improve your situation still stands;
Open a ticket with Microsoft to understand the topic. My assumption would be that you could name the engineer who visited you a few years ago, and revisit the discussion you had with him and Microsoft directly.
(the statement of course goes against any independt benchmarking - such as
Project VRC,
acknowledged facts by the Community and more..)
As stated already; If you have tested all that you described, I can't offer anymore suggestions apart from the above.
Nicke Källén | The Knack| Twitter:
@Znackattack

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