Trimming Source Clips

Hi
Trying again to find affection for Motion ... V5 this time. But it always seems a fight ...
Anyway, I must be missing something ....
How do I trim source footage (from the Browser Pane) prior to putting it on the Timeline? Seeing as there's no way to get a trimmed clip from FCP X into Motion 5, I can only go to the source clip .... without going to all the trouble of exporting from FCPX. If the source clip is very long (eg 1 hr) how can I just drop a section of it in the project.
Please don't say I have to add the whole thing to a long project and add In/Out points in the timeline!
Any prod in the right direction would be appreciated.
Thanks

Thanls for the tip. I was sure I was overlooking something...
It's just so frustrating that there are ( for me anyway ) so many little oversignts at the very foundation of the workflow that prevent me from really getting 'into' the product. For instance the keyframe editor is really fiddly and confusing to look at ... too much clicking to needed to work in it properly. But the clip trimming is soooooo silly.
But there's a lot about this version that makes me want to stay. The chorma keyer is amazing...
Off to the feedback page and wait for V6? Kidding.

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Trimming video clips before editing.

Hi everyone,
I have searched around and can't seem to find what I'm looking for.
My computer was running very slow and running out of memory to export movies.
After speaking to a friend, he suggested trimming down the clips to the relevant sections then export them as much smaller clips ready for the real edit.
Is there a set procedure for trimming down clips or do you use the raw files to edit with?
I hope this all makes sense.
My PC setup is:
4GB RAM
Quad AMD
Onboard graphics card (next upgrade)
Win XP
I'm using Abobe Premiere Pro CS3.
Thanks in advance for your help.

you should do everything humanly possible to make the pc you now have as fast and "lean" as possible for editing. check out hardware section and browse subjects about hard drives and settings and so on.
I have a mousey computer but added an internal hard drive ( 2 internal now ) so programs are on C and media cache is on the other internal. Then I also got an external graid (firewire 800 for me, but if you can use esata thats even better ) and I now use that for my source files..
the thing is, the more you spread the load around the faster it is ( indexing off on all drives )..
check out the threads on hardware and 'best setups' for editing ...there are hundreds of threads...but you do that and it will help you a lot. just have to do some reading and note taking and then work on the computer to do what you've learned.
after that...if you are still slow and having probs... you can load clips onto timeline one at a time.. and cut ( not trim but cut ) out what you want to use for editing and move those cuts up one video level ( you can cut and then copy paste so your original video clip stays complete in terms of having all the clip there )
use a new sequence for each LARGE CLIP ( eg. one hour clip from tape ?? )..and keep track of everything by naming the sequences well etc...
Then you can create a "final" sequence and move all your CUTS into that... into say for example video 2...
now scrub through stuff and bring what you want down to video level 1 which will be your final edit...
turn off all video and sound in sequences you're not currently using ( after you get done with cuts there ).
I only edit SD as I cant do more than a few minutes of HD before this mouse starts to gasp....fact of life... so if you have to , downscale your hd stuff to SD ( 16: 9 ) and edit THAT instead of HD.
hope this helps...

Bulk trim multiple clips

Hi,
My workflow is quite straight forward: log and transfer AVCHD material into FCP 7 by setting in- and out points; then selet all clips and put them on in the sequence (no need to change the order).
I'm looking for a way to trim multiple clips in one batch. With log and transfer I selected my raw (about 200 clips) material and I need lets say about 10 frames on both sites of all clips to set cross dissolves between clips on my sequence.
By doing so I've a default trim of 10 frames on both sites of each clip which a can change for particular clips if needed. I would save me quite some time since right now I trim all clips individually
Any tips?

If you logged and transferred the clips using the actual timecode you wanted to use, and then told FCP to add 10 second handles, it would have set in and out points where you wanted them, the handles in tact, so you could add your transitions. Something to think about for the future.
As far as your current issue goes, I can offer only a workaround solution that will be faster than setting in and out points for every clip.
Start with your playhead at the beginning of the timeline.
1. Put 20 seconds of slug in the viewer.
2. Add a track to the top of your sequence, and two audio tracks to the bottom.
3. Set the source/destination to the blank tracks (left side of the Timeline window - v1 connected to V2, and a1, a2 to A3, A4 for example).
4. Press the down arrow to move to the next edit point.
5. Press F10 to perform an overwrite edit. (Or whatever keystroke you've programmed to be overwrite edit.)
6. Repeat steps 4 and 5 until you have your slug at every edit point.
7. Press T once to switch to the "select track forward tool".
8. Click to the left of the fist slug, on the track that they lie.
9. Type -10. (that's "minus, ten, period") and press return. (This will move all of the slug backwards 10 seconds - don't forget the period.)
10. Shift drag the slug down into the track you want to trim.
11. Press delete (to remove the slug, leaving track gaps between the trimmed clips).
12. Put your playhead at the beginning of the sequence, then select all of the clips in the timeline and drag them to the CANVAS WINDOW - drop them on the INSERT drop zone.
13. Delete everything after the last intended track in your timeline.
It seems like a lot of steps, but that's just because I'm trying to be as detailed as possible. It's actually a very fast way to do it.
Other than that, I don't know of a way to bulk-set in/out points.

Trimming long clips?

(I should know this but)
When I bring a long clip into the Viewer I cannot perform precise trimming because the Viewer's timeline is hopelessly coarse; slight movement of the mouse makes 30-90 second leaps.
I can drop the clip down into the timeline and zoom way in but that's simply not convenient today, hurts my hangnails and I need a latté.
Suggestions welcome.
Name-calling and RTFM allowed, encouraged even.
bogiesan

I feel your pain. I regularly have to clip about three seconds out of hour-long (and multi-hour-long) source clips.
The habit I've gotten into is to roughly scrub with the mouse to where I want to be — wait. Let me go back.
The habit I've gotten into is to swear long and loud at my producers for not giving me effing timecode numbers for the segments they want to use, then to roughly scrub with the mouse to where I want to be. Then I use the transport controls (J, K and L) to find the second in which I want to mark my in point, then I hold down "K" and mash either "J" or "L" at the same time to shuttle slowly forward or back, until I get to just the frame I want.
And then I repeat for the out point.
And then I hit F9 to insert-edit the clip into my timeline.
And then I decide I'm not happy with those edits after all, so I double-click the in point or out point on my timeline to bring up the trim window, where I use the , (comma) and . (period) keys to shift the edit a frame at a time.
And then I drink. Heavily.

Trimming a clip with quicktime 7

I have been working with a feature on quicktime x call "trim" which will trim a clip in quicktime which results in a smaller clip size. I am now on another computer which uses tiger and quicktime 7 pro. I found the same feature however when I trim and save a clip, the size remains the same. Is this correct? Does this feature work differently in older versions?

QuickTime Player Pro's "Trim to Selection" is a non destructive edit. It can be "undone" via the Edit menu.
A regular "Save" doesn't remove the trimmed portion from the file so the file size remains the same as the source. "Save As" will remove the edited portion from the file.
Want a smaller file size? Use Save As.

Multiple instances of the same source clip in Project bin

This is a strange one.
I think its more an issue now than ever due to tapeless format editing. I edit lots of video now shot on Canon 5d. They sometimes have thousands of individual clips.
The problem is that our project files are getting huge and premiere slows to a grinding halt.
We copy paste lots of timelines from one project to another. When we paste, all of the source clips land in the project bin (as you would expect) However, sometimes I have already made reference to the same source files in the edit to begin with (So they are already in the project bin)
However, when I paste a new timeline, it will make another reference to that same source clip in the project bin. Therefore double up reference to a souce clip in the project. Increasing the clips in the overall project, which bloats everything and slows premiere down.
Can premiere be smarter? Can it see that the source file already exists in the project and link to that existing file instead of creating another reference to the same file?
Hope that makes sence.

I am beginning to think that there is no easy way around this issue.
I have started to use Final Cut and am noticing lots of differences between the two platforms. I have been a Adobe Premiere user for 10 years and I concider myself a NINJA using this program. However, there are definitly differences between the two, this being one of them.
Final cut does not double up on source references in your project bin when copying one sequence from one project into another.
CLEVER
Its annoying that premiere doubles files up as it gets ridiculously messy in your project bin. Double ups, triple ups, quadruple ups the list goes on.
Its strange cause when you start a Prem project from scratch and import a source clip, you can set in and out points as many times as possible and drag onto the timeline, and it does not duplicate the original source file in the project bin. Thus keeping your project bin neat and clean. However, as soon as you paste a sequence, it goes and duplicates refeneces like its outta control, rather than looking at what you alraedy have in your project bin and saying to itself. (Hmmm well the source clip is already here, so we dont have to duplicate this one....move onto the next file)
Prem is great at lots of things, dont get me wrong. I freaking love the program, however, things like this let it down as the program becomes unusable as it gets bogged down with way too many clip references.
Hmmm, we shall see who wins the day in the end. Time do do some Final Cut edditing now.
P.S. Final cut can do 16 multi clips in a real time edit. Premiere...only 4...come on Prem, pick up your game!

Is there any way to retrieve accidentally deleted source clips?

I accidentally deleted source clips for a video project, and now the viewer won't show my video (although I can still see the frames when I run my cursor over the project). Is there any way to retrieve the files or show iMovie where to find the source clips on my computer, kind of like how it's possible to show iTunes where to find source mp3s on my computer when they're moved from the iTunes file? Since I can still see the frames when I move my cursor over the clips (with the exclamation points in the corners), it seems as though the memory of the edited clips must still be in iMovie somehow and be recoverable. Any help would be appreciated - I'd really like to avoid having to re-import and re-edit all of those clips!

Basics of File Recovery
Files in Trash
If you simply put files in the Trash you can restore them by opening the Trash (left-click on the Trash icon) and drag the files from the Trash to your Desktop or other desired location. OS X also provides a short-cut to undo the last item moved to the Trash -press COMMAND-Z.
If you empty the Trash the files are gone. If a program does an immediate delete rather than moving files to the Trash, then the files are gone. Recovery is possible but you must not allow any additional writes to the hard drive - shut it down. When files are deleted only the directory entries, not the files themselves, is modified. The space occupied by the files has been returned to the system as available for storage, but the files are still on the drive. Writing to the drive will then eventually overwrite the space once occupied by the deleted files in which case the files are lost permanently. Also if you save a file over an existing file of the same name, then the old file is overwritten and cannot be recovered.
General File Recovery
If you stop using the drive it's possible to recover deleted files that have not been overwritten by using recovery software such as Data Rescue II, File Salvage or TechTool Pro. Each of the preceding come on bootable CDs to enable usage without risk of writing more data to the hard drive. Two free alternatives are Disk Drill and TestDisk. Look for them and demos at MacUpdate or CNET Downloads.
The longer the hard drive remains in use and data are written to it, the greater the risk your deleted files will be overwritten.
Also visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQ on Data Recovery.

Moving and copying events and projects to an external hard drive using Imovie09-Source clip is missing

Some background on what I am doing is importing all of my home video into an event in IMovie. Since DVD's can only hold about 2 hours of footage, I am making a new project for each 2 hours so I can burn the footage onto a DVD. I want to make space on my internal hard drive so I am trying to move the projects that are completed to an external drive. Because I also don't want to lose any footage I have imported into the event I am also copying the home video event to the external drive. (didn't want to move it yet until I know what i am doing, just in case it is lost somehow).
I tried moving a project to the external drive (it was a slideshow for my daughters first birthday which contained photos and video clips from the event that was already copied to the external drive). The project did move to the external hard drive but on the video clips there is a yellow triangle that says source clip is missing. I am moving and copying from within Imovie and NOT the finder so I don't understand why it says the clip is missing when it is definitely a part of the event that is already on the external drive.
What is interesting is the source clip is missing error showed on the first birthday project but it did NOT show as an error when I moved the 2 hour home video project. (All of the video in these projects are coming from the same home video event)
I am trying to make sure that when I move the projects permanently off the internal hard drive and onto the external drive, that I am not losing any part of my projects. I want to be able to easily move them back and forth if needed without any missing files.
Any suggestions as to why I am still receiving the yellow triangle?

As I can't see what you are doing, I can't tell you what you might be doing wrong.
You could try trashing the preferences.
Many weird things happen as a result of corrupt preferences which can create a vast range of different symptoms, so whenever FCP X stops working properly in any way, trashing the preferences should be the first thing you do using this free app.
http://www.digitalrebellion.com/prefman/
Shut down FCP X, open PreferenceManager and in the window that appears:-
1. Ensure that only FCP X is selected.
2. Click Trash
The job is done instantly and you can re-open FCP X.
There is absolutely no danger in trashing preferences and you can do it as often as you like.
The preferences are kept separately from FCP X and if there aren't any when FCP X opens it automatically creates new ones . . . instantly.

All of a sudden, I can't watch any of my films from the Event Library, it also says 'Source Clip is missing' in the other window, I haven't even touched anything that I know of?

All of a sudden, I can't watch any of my films from the Event Library, it also says 'Source Clip is missing' in the other window, I haven't even touched anything that I know of?

Hi
I haven't even touched anything that I know of?
And You've not moved or emptied any folder on Your Hard Disk named
• iMovie Event's - or -
• iMovie Project's
Or - disconnected any external hard disk/s
As one CAN NOT move the Event's or Project's on / via DeskTop/Finder - AS iMovie then loses the connection to them. Moving them - MUST BE DONE - within iMovie application - to work OK.
So if You by meaning or accident moved it/them - Move them back - and iMovie might work again.
ELSE - If You are 100% sure that You didn't move them then
• Trash iMovie Pref and Cache files
• Run Repair Permissions - Disk Util tool
• Run Repair Hard Disk - Disk Util tool - BUT YOU MUST Start-Up Your Mac from DVD or External HD to do this
and may be all will work OK again
Yours Bengt W

TS1702 No audio when trimming a clip. Any suggestions?

I have no audio when trimming a clip. Just got the new app imovie. Any one else having this problem? Any help would be great.

start here with the safe mode thing
Songs and Other Content Do Not Play Correctly

Cannot align/trim video clips

I've been trying for the better part of a day to figure out how to precisely align and trim two video clips, but have had no luck. I grew up using Windows Movie Maker quite a bit to edit videos (covers of songs, so they all involve starting with a title slide, fading into a video, and syncing the whole video with a prerecorded audio track), and what I thought would be universal in video editing programs doesn't seem to work the way I thought.
The main problem I am having is the inability to arrange and edit multiple video clips in a linear fashion. For example, if I have clip A, a few seconds of video with the title of the movie, and clip B, the actual video, I cannot seem to precisely edit the two together. In the background is an audio track, so the video has to be synced with the audio. Problem is, I can't just trim either clip A or clip B by a few frames to get it to sync. If I get the clip of the performance in sync with the audio, inserting a title slide pushes the rest of the video to the side, rather than just overtaking the performance video.
I should also mention that I have another video in the picture-in-picture (rhythm guitar track, lead guitar track), so the two need to be perfectly in sync.
I tried to get around this by cutting the clips to the same length. Each of my two clips that I try to align are 00:03:51:06. I thought that by doing this, I could drag the main video to the timeline, and then insert the picture-in-picture video on top of it so that they would be in sync. iMovie doesn't seem to want to align the two clips even though they are the same length, and not being able to precisely edit them is making it so that I can't align them properly.
I know this is a basic movie editing program and I may be expecting too much of iMovie, but is there something I'm missing here that's preventing me from making clean edits?

OK I see the problem,
I've made some videoclips in the past (barbershop quartet), and have to admit that iMovie is limited.
As I'm from Holland, it's hard to me to give you an exact advise of what is and isn't possible in English (as all my menu's are in Dutch and not English), as it's also depends on what kind of footage you have and what you're trying to achieve. The only thing I can help you with is point out some directions you could dig into:
1. You may study the function of beatmarkers and all the possibilities to synchronize music to clips/beatmarkers.
2. As I mentiond earlier you can possible combine that with thwe functionalitty of the precisoon editor, you can make precis edits as wel for vidoe and audio (put apperntly you already studied that.
3. For the picture in picture there is no solution (as far as I know). You might experiment with "cutaway" and/or "next to each other" when it comes to inserting clips.
4. For the production of videopodcasts I used Garageband for fine tuning voice-overs and background music. In Garageband it is possible to make very precise edits on imported video tracks. I asume Logic has similar functionallity. This means you perhaps have to move back and forward video/audio from iMovie to Garageband (or Logic) and visa versa.
If that is all to much of a hassle (which I can imagine) perhaps Final Cut Pro X is you're only option.
Succes, sorry I cann't help you further.
Ben

In imovie can you trim multiple clips at a time? Also, can you randomly sort the photos?

In imovie can you trim multiple clips at a time? Also, can you randomly sort the photos?

Can I do all at once or 1 at a time? It seems to only allow 1 at a time.
No. But you can do one, copy its settings, then seclect the rest and "Paste Audio Settings" to all of them all at once in a project.

Exported image is always stretched... source clips 1080p, sequence settings 720p.

So I'm trying to export a file from FC7 at 720p, but it always comes out stretched, no matter what resolution I have the export set to. The source clips are mostly 1080p, but I chose to edit 720p because my Mac was just too slow to be able to efficiently edit in 1080p.
Sequence settings:
Frame Size: 1280x720 (HD 720p)
Pixel Aspect Ration: NTSC - CCIR 601 / DV (720x480)
Anamorphic: Off
The clip settings are mostly 1920x1080, however I'm also working with some still images that vary in resolution. In editing, all of the clips are zoomed in, as I'm trying to cut out some aspects of the image, and focus on specific details within the clip's frame.
In the canvas, the image looks just as it should be, but whenever I export, it is noticeably stretched. I feel like I've run out of options, and I'm thinking of re-editing the entire thing (it's not that long) in 1080p. My gut tells me that it has to do with the clip formats being different from the sequence settings, but I can't figure out anything else that I could try to get it to export properly.
I was hoping if anybody had any ideas, they could shoot them my way. I'd appreciate it.
Thanks!

Unfortunately this did not work, but I feel like it should have when I observe the clip settings. Interestingly, when I set the sequence Pixel Aspect Ratio to square, the image on the canvas appears stretched in the same way that it does in all the exported files that I had previously created. The clip settings are as follows:
Resolution: 1920x1080
PAR: Square
Compressor: H.264
Frame rate: 59.94
Other images that I used are varying resolutions, but also have a square PAR. The sequence settings are as I mentioned in the opening post, but here are some added details that vary from the clip settings:
Compressor: Apple Proress422
Frame rate: 29.97
I tried changing all of the PAR of the clip settings to match the sequence settings, but this didn't work either. Honestly, I think I might just resort to working within 1080p where the sequence settings are changed to match the clip settings exactly, because I opened up a test sequence and it works just fine this way. I appreciate the help a lot though, thank you!

CS6 Match Frame Problem, Sequence Clip vs Source Clip issue

Hey folks.
So, I'm on Windows 7, Premiere Pro CS6.
I've found an issue with Match Frame (Control F), it seems to be acting inconsistently. Sometimes when I double click on a clip in my sequence and hit F it brings up the sequence clip, other times it brings up the source clip (in the Source Monitor)
The problem here is that I'm placing markers on my sequence clips to line them up based on visual cues in the scene. This work fine for a while, but then, seemingly randomly, I'll double click a sequence clip and when I hit F it brings up the source clip, not the sequence clip. Now when I place markers they do not show up in the sequence because I'm marking the source clip not the sequence clip.
Anyone else encounter this? If needed I can try to capture video of this happening.
Thanks all,
~ James

Does this mean that it isn't possible to "Reviel in project", or otherwise locate a merged clip in the project window?
So far "Reveal in project", and "match frame", point to the same subfile of a merged clip... not very useful. What other options are there?
... A sad workaround is to type in the name of the merged file in the search frame at the top of the Project pain.
I guess this one for the feature request list.

Preserving Source Clip Information Upon Export In Premiere

Is there a way to export clips from sequence timeline and preserve source clip metadata?
Example - I have a clip I used warp stabilizer on and I have marked the clip with in/out. Now I would like to export the clip with same clip name and source timecode and hoping there is a setting to do so.
Thanks, Chris

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