Trouble connecting a BEFW11S4 to a netopia dsl modem

hi,
I'm trying to connect my BEFW11S4 router to a netopia dsl modem via an ethernet cable.  The router doesn't seem to be able to get an ip from the modem.  the modem's log doesn't even show any attempts from the router   Any ideas for what to try? 
I just want to extend the wireless network that i have already from the netopia, whether via bridging or routing, i don't care.  
thanx,
steev
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Thanks but I've already tried what's described. I've tried it with 2 different 2nd routers.
One weird thing I observed with my latest attempts is that once I got the 2nd router on the same subnet, connected to the 1st router via LAN ports,  I could actually ping the 1st router from behind the 2nd, only with something like 80% packet loss. In fact I could ping out to the internet but also with 80 to 90 percent packet loss, and no http. And I can't ping the 2nd router from the Netopia (the Netopia has a little ping utility on it)
here's another possible clue: in the Netopia log there are entries like this:
00:00:15:20 LHD: Interface  Eth 100BT, State offline
00:00:15:20 LHD: IP  192.168.0.2, MAC 00-0c-41-4f-f0-fe
00:00:15:19 LHD: Interface  Eth 100BT, State suspect
00:00:15:19 LHD: IP  192.168.0.6, MAC 00-23-32-2f-52-f9
00:00:15:19 LHD: Interface  Eth 100BT, State suspect
00:00:15:19 LHD: IP  192.168.0.2, MAC 00-0c-41-4f-f0-fe
00:00:11:45 LHD: Interface  Eth 100BT, State online
00:00:11:45 LHD: IP  192.168.0.77, MAC 00-23-32-2f-52-f8
.77 is a host connected directly to the Netopia.
.2 is the 2nd router (connected via a LAN port). 
.6 was the machine i was pinging from (connected to a port of the 2nd router).
What's the 'state suspect' business? Could the Netopia somehow be not "trusting" the connection from the 2nd router, for some reason? Or...?
It seems like this has to be some problem with the Netopia, because the same thing happens with 2 different 2nd routers a linksys and a netgear, and the linksys worked fine when i was using it behind a motorola cable modem.  the thing is, the Netopia is brand new and provided by Qwest...

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