Trouble converting TIFF to JPEG

I have a Canon G9 and when I process RAW images in Canon's software, it automatically saves it as a huge tiff tile. I am using Photoshop CS3 on Mac 10.5 Leopard and when I open the TIFF to change it to JPEG, it doesn't offer that option in the "save as" screen.

How many bits per channel? I'm guessing it's 16. You need to convert to 8 under Image>Mode before trying to Save as jpg.

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Converting TIFF to JPEG with sips, then import into iPhoto problems

I am cataloguing a box of slides and negatives for my family. The scanner generates huge TIFF files (on purpose), and I have an Applescript that then uses sips to copy them into low quality JPEG files using this command:
do shell script ("sips -s format jpeg -s formatOptions low -s description " & "'" & "Original path: " & (POSIX path of an_image) & "'" & space & (POSIX path of an_image) & " --out " & new_file)
where an_image is the source file, and new_file is the path and name of the converted image.
This way, I can save the original file path as the image's description while shrinking the file size to speed up later importing into iPhoto. As part of the iPhoto import, that description from the metadata is placed in the on screen comment section for each image.
This works fine to do the initial shrinking, but less than half of the resulting jpeg files can subsequently be imported into iPhoto. I get this error:
The following file could not be imported. (The file is in an unrecognizable format.)
And yet, Preview and Safari both open the files with no problems.
Is there anything else I need to set when doing the conversion with sips to make it easier for iPhoto to recognize the converted files?
I have over 1000 images, and anticipate a final total of about 2500 when I am done. These are images of myself and my siblings from the 1960s and 1970s, and my idea is to scan them all at high resolution, and use the converted, smaller files for iPhoto for keywording and Faces to get them organized, while retaining the paths to the original images. Any commentary is appreciated.

I have uploaded one of the bad JPG files here:
www.mrcodeboy.com/smith/Try.jpg
I tried examining the metadata with exiftool, Image Events, and mdls, but there are a number of differences between the TIFF metadata and the JPEG metadata structures. I found no obvious differences, but this is a good idea, and I will continue to examine those closely for clues.
*EDIT*
I downloaded the bad JPEG above onto a different machine; it still does not import into iPhoto. However, by invoking sips on that file to convert it back to a TIFF file thusly:
sips -s format tiff Try.jpg --out TryTF.tif
it imported just fine. There has to be some sort of parameter that is NOT being addressed in the conversion from TIFF to JPEG that is somehow messing this up, yet is preserved when the file is re-written as a TIFF.
Message was edited by: casdvm

Trouble importing tiffs and jpegs

I was importing an image into lightroom in 3 different formats: psd, tiff, and jpeg. I got an error message with the tiff and jpeg stating that the image was already in lightroom. The images all had the same name but were different formats. Does lightroom not recognize that the formats are different and therefore different images, or can it only import 1 format of an image? thanks

LR See's the Others as side cars to the one imported. You can put each type into another folder/directory and they will import. The you can put them all in the same folder from with LR.
This behavior is likely to change, because some many have complained about it. It was not supposed to happen between these three file types, but was impimented for RAW +JPEG pairs, as the JPEG was cnsidered a 'preview' sidecar and JPEGs based on prcessing the RAW could be easily exported at anytime. After much bru-ah-ah, this appears that it will change.
Don
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Help converting tiffs to jpegs

After processing raw images in Elements 8 and saving as tiffs, I find that I need to convert the images to jpegs for commercial printing. How do I acomplish that?

In the Organizer, File->Export->As New File
In the Editor, open the .tiff and then File->Save As and select JPG
In this scenario, there is really no need to save a processed RAW as a TIFF, you can leave it as RAW and save a step (click on "Done" in the RAW editor)

Converting tiffs to jpegs

I have exported images from lightroom in tiff format, now I would like to get them printed. The printer I have spoken to only works with jpegs? This brings up several questions, will I loose image quality? If so maybe I should be looking for a different printer. If not can I convert these files or should I just re-export them again using jpeg settings?
Thanks !
Joe

You're right about the jpegs for Bay. I was confusing them with the lab I
used before. The quality of their prints from jpeg was better than that from
tiff I got at a previous lab.
To get good color in your prints you need two things. I. you need good
monitor calibration. You have that covered already which is more than most
folks. This allows you to make sure the color you see is what ends up in the
file. II. you need to use the correct color space in your output file.
Colors are defined within a certain standard and the same color will have
different values in different standards or vice versa, the same RGB values
describe completely different colors in different color spaces. The most
common of those color spaces is sRGB which is the standard for the web.
Other big standards are adobeRGB and prophotoRGB. Both can describe a much
wider array of colors than sRGB, but are less standard and often lead to
unexpected effects if your destination is not very savvy. If your lab is not
very good, they will not understand files in adobeRGB or any other space and
your prints will come back desaturated and or muddy looking. Bay understands
different color spaces than sRGB and I usually send them adobeRGB jpeg
files. This allows for slightly more saturated colors in the final print as
the file can describe more saturated colors. This is noticeable in things
like Neon colors, flowers, etc but for many subjects it doesn't matter an
awful lot and sRGB would be just fine.
Regarding output sharpening. This is a different step from the capture
sharpening you do in Develop. Output sharpening, which is indeed done in the
export module, allows you to compensate for the softening that is introduced
by the scaling and printing processes. It basically slightly oversharpens
your output file (they will look a little too crunchy if you look at the
output files) which will get softened for a very nice sharp result in the
final print that will be more like what you see on your screen. This needs
some experimentation. I usually use matte standard and I scale to the native
resolution of the printers (250 ppi for the photographic printers at Bay).
Note that this is a detail that allows you to eke out the final last bot of
possible quality. In my experience, your customers will not notice this at
all but it really looks much better to me. Your customer usually looks far
more at the color and contrast of the image than he/she will take out a
magnifying glass to check the microdetail on your print. If you print for
fine art purposes, this is different though and you would be best off really
paying attention to this detail (pun intended) too.
Hope this helps!

IPhoto cannot convert Tiff to Jpeg after editing.

I have a set of very high resolution scans made on an 11" x 17" Epson scanner that I would like to edit in iPhoto. iPhoto imports these files (which are 450 MB or so in size) (sometimes) allows me to edit them - - and sometimes it crashes when I attempt to edit these files - - but when I attempt to export them as maximum resolution jpegs it says it can't do so. Once I've quit iPhoto and then start it again the edited image disappears when I double click it. My guess is that file is simply too large for iPhoto.

I Additionally, when I convert the file using the save as command in Preview, I can convert it into a jpeg or jpeg2000 and it is much smaller (71GB for example), but the same anomalous behavior occurs when I finish editing the file and quit iPhoto- - when I double click the thumbnail, the full sized image appears briefly and then disappears. leaving in its place a completely black window. I would be most appreciative of any insights.
Thanks.

Can't convert tiff to jpeg in PSE 4

When I try to "save as" for certain photos, I do not get the option in the dialog box of saving as a jpeg file (I do get jpeg 2000). Does anyone have any idea why, and what I can do to save the photo as a jpeg? Thanks.

Yes, but if the image has layers and is 8bit, you can still create a JPEG, only PE will create it as a copy, which is something like doing a Save As, only instead of the new image being open on your desktop afterwards, the old image is still there and the new image is wherever you saved it, but closed.

Losing metadata after TIFF to JPEG conversion in Image Processor

When I use Image Processor to convert TIFF to JPEG for my images I am losing metadata information placed in the Properties section of my image file (PC). Is there a work-around for this so that the information isn't lost? Any idea why this is happening?

Possibly the tiff is 16 bit.
In Full Edit click Image à Mode à 8 Bit/channel
Then save as jpeg.

Can you edit a TIFF in iPhoto 09 without it converting to a JPEG?

I am wondering if I can edit photos in the TIFF format in iPhoto 09 without having them automatically converted to the JPEG format? I read that you should never edit a TIFF photo if you want to keep it in that format, because iPhoto will immediately convert it to a JPEG the minute you edit it without any warming.
I am in the process of scanning thousands of slides and I don't want to scan them as TIFFs only to have iPhoto convert them to JPEGs. I will do most of my editing with Photoshop Elements 6 for Mac, but just in case I ever edit a TIFF in iPhoto 09, I need to know if it will automatically be converted to a JPEG or not.
Today I tried editing a TIFF in iPhoto 09 and as far as I could tell, it didn't change the format to JPEG, even though I just read in the iPhoto 09 Missing Manual today that it WILL in fact change it. Am I missing something? I just assume if it still shows the TIFF extension, it has NOT been converted to a JPEG! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Linda

Thanks Terence. What a relief. I still don't understand what the book I read was talking about then. Here's a quote from the section I was referring to in "iPhoto 08: The Missing Manual" book, p 91 (ISBN: 0596-516185):
"Note, however, that the instant you edit a TIFF-format photo (Chapter 7), iPhoto converts it into JPEG.
That's fine if you plan to order prints or a photo book (Chapter 11) from iPhoto, since JPEG files are required for those purposes. But if you took that once-in-a-lifetime, priceless shot as a TIFF file, don't do any editing in iPhoto-don't even rotate it- if you hope to maintain its perfect, pristine quality."
After my test results, I thought maybe this was something that had changed from iPhoto 08 to iPhoto 09, so I went to the bookstore yesterday and checked the same book for iPhoto 09, and there it was, the same quote! (on a different page, of course).
Anyway, thanks once again for your confirmation that my test was indeed correct. Linda

I'm having trouble converting my RAW files to jpegs. Even though my RAW files are 90MB plus, the jpegs when converted are only around 6MB. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks, A

Dear Forum,
I realise this isn’t necessarily your problem, buy I’m having trouble converting my RAW files to jpegs.
Even though my RAW files are 90MB plus, the jpegs when converted are only around 6MB.
Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks,
A

HHi Barbara, thanks for replying to my post.
No there's nothing wrong with the Jpegs, but I want to srart uploading images for sale in Alamy, but they say they must be a minimum of 17mb un compressed. Does that mean that at 6mb compressed from 90mb they'd be acceptable?
thanks,
alex

Converting tiff images into jpeg

I would like to convert tiff images into jpegs with iphoto. I dont want to duplicate all my photos and then have to delete one by one!
How do I do this?

Welcome to the Apple Discussions. The short answer is that you cannot. You will have to export the files via the File->Export->File Export menu option, selecting jpeg as the format and checking the box to include the keywords and comments, and maximum size. Then import the jpgs and delete the tiffs.
You can get all of the tiff files together by doing a search for .tif. Then do a Select All (Command-A) and go to the export menu. Export all to a folder on the desktop. Import the new jpgs into iPhoto.
To get rid of the tiffs once the jpgs are imported do another search for the tifs and select all again. Then type Command+Delete. That moves the tiff photos to iPhoto's Trash bin. Then empty the bin.
If you have multiple files with the same file name you'll have to do some renaming before the export. You can batch rename them using the option Title to Date/Time or just date alone. I use the date taken as the file name as that gives me excellent chronological sorting and searching by filename for dates.
Do you Twango?
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 08 libraries. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.

How do you covert the .tiff to .jpeg?

I am having trouble converting the edited .tiff files to jpeg so that I can upload them to my print vendor.

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The availability of color space in RAW, TIFF and JPEG files

This is useful if your new to DSLR photography.
This is Nikon response on my question in the discussion: View photo metadata
I'm assuming that you know that Adobe RGB shows about 50% and sRGB 35% of CIELAB color space.
In a DSLR camera like the Nikon D800 you can select a color space (Adobe RGB or sRGB) in the shooting menu.
In Adobe Lightroom 4.3 the RAW metadata shows no color space info. Therefore I asked why not?
In the (Dutch) Nikon D800 manual on page 84 (about RAW) and 274 (about color space) and Nikon FAQ website there is no descripton about the color space availability/behavior in RAW, JPEG and TIFF files.
In the book "Mastering the Nikon D800 by Darrel Young" on page 125 - 126 is written: "If you shoot in RAW format a lot, you may want to consider using Adobe RGB....."
All experts on this forum answered: color space does not apply/affect the RAW data file or RAW files have no color space.
The respone of Nikon Europe Support (Robert Vermeulen) was: In Nikon D800 NEF RAW files both color spaces (Adobe RGB and sRGB) are always physically available. In JPEG and TIFF files only the in the shooting menu selected color space is physically available. So the forum experts gave the correct answer!
Of course you can convert afterwards a JPEG or TIFF file with sRGB color space to Adobe RGB but you don't get more colors.
When you install the Microsoft Camera Codec Pack or FastPictureViewer Codec Pack they only show color space metadata for JPEG and TIFF files and nothing for RAW because color space "doesn't exist". I thought the codec packs removed the color space metadata for my RAW files.
Adobe Lightroom also can not show color space for RAW files because that "doesn't exist".

Van-Paul wrote:
The respone of Nikon Europe Support (Robert Vermeulen) was: In Nikon D800 NEF RAW files both color spaces (Adobe RGB and sRGB) are physically available. In JPEG and TIFF files only the in the shooting menu selected color space is physically available.
I still think this is an evasive answer that doesn't really pinpoint the exact chain of events that take place. They are:
1. The raw file contains the naked data captured by the sensor. This is just a very dark grayscale image.
2. In the raw converter it is encoded into a working color space to process the information. In Lightroom this is known as "Melissa RGB", or linear gamma Prophoto. It is also demosaiced to bring back the color information.
3. From Lightroom it can be exported to one of the familiar color spaces like sRGB or Adobe RGB. This is, in principle at least, a normal profile conversion.
These three steps are what the camera does to produce a jpeg. So the basic steps are the same, the camera is just doing it automatically (and usually butchering the image in the process...).
This Darrell Young is, I'm sure, an excellent photographer, but in this he is seriously confused and just propagating a common myth. Anyway, thanks for bringing up this discussion, hope you didn't object too much to the tone of the answers... Our only concern here was to get this right and with no room for misunderstanding.

Cannot copy RAW images to Tiff or Jpeg in ACR

Requesting immediate help if anyone available currently
I've been using Photoshop CS6 for several years, never a problem at all. As soon as I bought Creative Cloud, I see many issues that cannot be resolved or are recurring.
Again today as I go to copy files (images) from Adobe Camera Raw, to say a Tiff or a Jpeg, it appears to begin to copy as normal, then suddenly a box appears with all my copying
file name/numbers, and it begins to eliminate one by one "Cannot Create File", failing the entire process to copy. I have never seen this until I began using Creative Cloud about a
month ago.
Can anyone help this Saturday evening as i am trying to complete a large project of images for others who expect them soon.?
Thank you and I look forward to any advice soon,
Mark Seibold, Artist-Astronomer, Portland Oregon

Hi Rick
Thanks for clarifying that. Yes, that term was my mistake, as I meant to write 'Save As"
Another forum respondent just replied also, and he states as so many others do, that they do not use
the Adobe Camera Raw app formerly with CS6, as they instead use Lightroom, so he apologized that he
was not familiar with ACR but that I might have an old CS6 plug-in running that may not be completely
compatible with the new Creative Cloud. I am not sure if this is the problem.
What I would find as not really likely, is that the Creative Cloud engineers would go through all the trouble
to redesign from the old CS6, then even assist us over the phone to help install it, but in oversight,
leave us without a proper update to properly run Adobe Camera Raw. I also have never really understood the advantage of Lightroom. I'm sure that many must enjoy its efficiency, as I hear wedding photographers like it for huge batch processing of adjusting many images in synchronicity all at once. I would say that I do the same with ACR accessing it through Bridge, and I like ACR's quick and simple access for simple image adjustments and then say a small batch all synchronized, then finally to "Save As" for all selected to a final output as Tiff or Jpeg.
As an astronomer that has just started learning to use Registax for night sky images, we also like the ACR adjustments and then to "Save As" eg. all Jpeg or all Tiff, to then photo-stitch large landscape and night sky panoramas with Microsoft ICE photo-stitching.
Sorry for the long description here, but I hope to relate the total idea of what I am doing for the past years. I'll even attach an example >
Thanks for your possible solution to my problem in "Saving As" in ACR,
Mark

Having trouble saving tiff files to server

Hi all,
I'm having trouble saving tiff files to our server (a mac pro running OSX 10.5.7 client not server). I get the error message 'could not save "filename" because write access was not granted. The disk in question is set to ignore permissions and the other 3 Macs on the network have no problems.
Bizarrely this only seems to happen when saving as a Tiff file, I can save as JPEG without issue! The file will usually save after a few attempts, sometimes six or seven save as' are needed.
This problem comes and goes, but at the moment its pretty bad.
This is becomming very frustrating as Tiff is our prefered format and we work as a team so have to save to the server.
Any ideas?

Just to expand on Buko's correct ansswer, this is the boilerplate text I use in connection to saving to a network (please NOTE the part where it explains that normally, it does work, but that it is impossible to troubleshoot someone else's network remotely, and that's why it's not supported by Adobe):
If you are opening files over a network or saving them to a network server, please cease and desist immediately in the event you are currently experiencing problems with one or more files. Working across a network is not supported.
See:
http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/322391.html
Copy the CLOSED file from your server to your local hard disk, work on it, save it again to your local hard disk, close it, and copy the closed file back to the server.
Of course, the fact that Adobe does not support working across a network does not necessarily mean it won't work. It should.
Adobe's position is that there are too many variables in a network environment for them to guarantee that everything will work correctly in every network, especially given the fact that if something does not work properly, it's probably the network's fault, and Adobe has no way of troubleshooting your network.
If you can't work locally, you are on your own, and if something happens, you're on your own. If you must work from a server, make sure your network administrator is a competent professional.
When problems arise, a lot of valuable work can be lost.

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