Trouble importing tiffs and jpegs

I was importing an image into lightroom in 3 different formats: psd, tiff, and jpeg. I got an error message with the tiff and jpeg stating that the image was already in lightroom. The images all had the same name but were different formats. Does lightroom not recognize that the formats are different and therefore different images, or can it only import 1 format of an image? thanks

LR See's the Others as side cars to the one imported. You can put each type into another folder/directory and they will import. The you can put them all in the same folder from with LR.
This behavior is likely to change, because some many have complained about it. It was not supposed to happen between these three file types, but was impimented for RAW +JPEG pairs, as the JPEG was cnsidered a 'preview' sidecar and JPEGs based on prcessing the RAW could be easily exported at anytime. After much bru-ah-ah, this appears that it will change.
Don
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William Lloyd wrote:
Yeah you shouldn't use ~ in general. That is a shortcut for "Your home directory."
This is not strictly true. ~ is a "meta-character" in Unix shells -- it is an instruction to the shell to substitute the path to a home directory. It only has meaning in a Unix shell command, and only if ~ is the first character in a file path name. Outside of a Unix shell ~ has no special significance (although other programs might adopt a similar convention).
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Import RAW and jpeg

If I try to import both RAW and JPEG from the same folder or from the same card LR only imports the RAW files. I usually shoot RAW and JPEG simutaneously so they both have the same filename but different file types. Photshop handles this OK so whats going on?

It would probably have been better to start a new thread, rather than attaching your new question on the end of a 3 year-old thread, but anyway, by JEP do you mean JPG? Where are you seeing JEP/JPG? The RAW files from your camera won't say .RAW as the extension, but .CRW or .CR2 if Canon RAW and .NEF if Nikon RAW, and perhaps some other extension for a different manufacturer.
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For learning photography, shutter, aperture, ISO and focal-length are mostly what you'd need, along with white-balance color-temperature which is visible in Develop mode. Some camera-manufacturer-specific programs can also show things like which focus-points were enabled, but Lightroom works with many, many cameras from various manufacturers and things like focus-points are recorded differently from each manufacturer so LR doesn't attempt to decode and show such less-standardized information.
If you really want to see ALL the information encoded in an image--the EXIF data, then download EXIFtool and drag-and-drop an image to the EXE that has (-k) in the name and you'll see a very long list of information, most of it irrelevant to general photography and, again, different for different cameras, where LR is trying to show things that are common to all cameras.
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I needed to test, as I almost never shoot in anything but RAW. When shot a couple of photos with my D300 in RAW+JPEG, and imported with a setting of Both (Separate Masters), the JPEG is on the left and the RAW on the right. Please review your settings in this regard, particularly in view of your other topic about not recognizing duplicates, as that makes be wonder if these two observations are related?
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Hello,
I shoot RAW and JPEG at the same time. Previously when I have imported the files using import "both with separate masters" the JPEG file would be on the left and the RAW file would be on the right, so when I stacked the photos and closed the stacks the JPEG would be visible and the RAW file would be stacked underneath.
Recently my imports have been the other way around with the RAW file on the left and the JPEG on the right. I understand I can promote and demote photos in a stack but this takes a long time with lots of photos imported at once.
Is there a way to have the JPEG file placed to the left of the RAW file during importing?
I have imported before using the same camera with JPEG on the left.
I hope this is clear.
Regards
Jayto.

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I want to import both the extensions, because I shoot all my pictures in RAW and JPEG and I only want to store the 4 and 5 stars rated pictures in NEF and lower rating I want to store just as JPEG.
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You assume that I speak and write Dutch.
My apologies to all of you who don't/cannot read/understand Dutch. The following is in Dutch and not Double Dutch.
It explains in some detail how to setup a workflow in Automator for separating RAW and JPEG files and importing the result in Aperture.
If someone wants the explanation in English: post a message.
Ga naar
http://www.completedigitalphotography.com/?p=408#more-408
en haal de Separate Jpeg's action.
NB. Ik ken alleen de Engelse namen van de mappen.
Plaats de Separate Jpeg's action hier
~/Library/Automator
Automator
Automator opstarten
Kies Bestand, Nieuw
Paneel Library: selecteer Finder
Paneel Action : selecteer een sleep "Separate Jpeg's" naar Workflow paneel
selecteer en sleep "Get Folder Contents" naar Workflow paneel (einde)
Paneel Library : selecteer Automator (PAS OP: Automator wordt geladen; weg ermee)
Paneel Automator: selecteer en sleep Import Photos naar Workflow paneel (einde)
Opslaan als Finder Plugin in de map
~/Library/Workflow/Applications/Workflows/
Gebruik
Selecteer een map in Finder die RAW and JPEG bevat.
Ctrl-Click of rechts klikken
In het context menu navigeer naar Automator
Selecteer Separate JPEG's
De rest gaat nu automatisch
Succes
Berend

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My question is simple: I understand (i think) that when I import pictures into iPhoto that they will be converted to JPEG. I have a number of JPEG files. But if I shoot something in RAW (.arw) and import it, does iPhoto 11 import the RAW image AND make a JPEG or does it just take the RAW photo and NOT convert to JPEG?
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Greetings Kelly,
Read this help menu item from iPhoto for "RAW" as it may help shed some light: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=iPhoto/9.0/en/pht41627265.html
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This is useful if your new to DSLR photography.
This is Nikon response on my question in the discussion: View photo metadata
I'm assuming that you know that Adobe RGB shows about 50% and sRGB 35% of CIELAB color space.
In a DSLR camera like the Nikon D800 you can select a color space (Adobe RGB or sRGB) in the shooting menu.
In Adobe Lightroom 4.3 the RAW metadata shows no color space info. Therefore I asked why not?
In the (Dutch) Nikon D800 manual on page 84 (about RAW) and 274 (about color space) and Nikon FAQ website there is no descripton about the color space availability/behavior in RAW, JPEG and TIFF files.
In the book "Mastering the Nikon D800 by Darrel Young" on page 125 - 126 is written: "If you shoot in RAW format a lot, you may want to consider using Adobe RGB....."
All experts on this forum answered: color space does not apply/affect the RAW data file or RAW files have no color space.
The respone of Nikon Europe Support (Robert Vermeulen) was: In Nikon D800 NEF RAW files both color spaces (Adobe RGB and sRGB) are always physically available. In JPEG and TIFF files only the in the shooting menu selected color space is physically available. So the forum experts gave the correct answer!
Of course you can convert afterwards a JPEG or TIFF file with sRGB color space to Adobe RGB but you don't get more colors.
When you install the Microsoft Camera Codec Pack or FastPictureViewer Codec Pack they only show color space metadata for JPEG and TIFF files and nothing for RAW because color space "doesn't exist". I thought the codec packs removed the color space metadata for my RAW files.
Adobe Lightroom also can not show color space for RAW files because that "doesn't exist".

Van-Paul wrote:
The respone of Nikon Europe Support (Robert Vermeulen) was: In Nikon D800 NEF RAW files both color spaces (Adobe RGB and sRGB) are physically available. In JPEG and TIFF files only the in the shooting menu selected color space is physically available.
I still think this is an evasive answer that doesn't really pinpoint the exact chain of events that take place. They are:
1. The raw file contains the naked data captured by the sensor. This is just a very dark grayscale image.
2. In the raw converter it is encoded into a working color space to process the information. In Lightroom this is known as "Melissa RGB", or linear gamma Prophoto. It is also demosaiced to bring back the color information.
3. From Lightroom it can be exported to one of the familiar color spaces like sRGB or Adobe RGB. This is, in principle at least, a normal profile conversion.
These three steps are what the camera does to produce a jpeg. So the basic steps are the same, the camera is just doing it automatically (and usually butchering the image in the process...).
This Darrell Young is, I'm sure, an excellent photographer, but in this he is seriously confused and just propagating a common myth. Anyway, thanks for bringing up this discussion, hope you didn't object too much to the tone of the answers... Our only concern here was to get this right and with no room for misunderstanding.

How to import RAW and JPEG, but see only one image?

This is driving me crazy.
I shoot sometimes RAW and sometimes JPEG on the same memory card. So some pictures have only a JPEG file, others (the ones I shot in RAW) have a RAW+JPEG pair (or at least, Aperture sees it that way when displaying the content of the memory card).
What I want:
- import only once
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There seems to be no combination of the import settings that lets me do this?!?!?!?
If, under the "RAW+JPEG Pairs" settings I select "RAW files only", all JPEG files DISAPPEAR from the import list. WHY? This setting should be for "RAW+JPEG Pairs" only, it should not affect images that only have a JPEG file. I want to import JPEG files as well, so I select "Both (RAW as master)". Now, in the imported project there are TWO images to deal with, which is not what I want.
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