Trouble Joining Office Network Thru Airport

Hi. If someone can solve this problem I will be forever grateful!
Our company just moved into a new office building. We're sharing office space with another company that has a T1 connection wired throughout the office. At my desk is an ethernet jack that when I plug into I'm connected to the internet.
This is where the problem is...we have a few MacBooks that we share files with a lot, and as well as one that's dedicated to our database, so we need to maximize our ethernet port. We have a cable running from the ethernet port into our Airport Extreme, which we connect off from wirelessly, and my main computer is running hardwired from the internet-OUT spot in the Airport.
With this setup, we can access our files no problem within our company, but we are unable to see the other office mates on our network, or on iTunes sharing.
I'm sure there's a setting in the Airport Extreme that will allow us to do this, I just don't know where it is. Can someone tell me how to make it so this setup will allow us to access the other computers in the office and their iTunes shares as well?
Thanks

I'm sure there's a setting in the Airport Extreme that will allow us to do this, I just don't know where it is. Can someone tell me how to make it so this setup will allow us to access the other computers in the office and their iTunes shares as well?
You just need to set up the AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS) as a bridge...
To set up the AEBS as a bridge, temporarily connect your computer directly (using an Ethernet cable) to the LAN port of the AEBS, and then, using the AirPort Admin Utility (found in /Applications/Utilities), make these settings:
Network tab
- Distribute IP addresses (unchecked)
- Apply the new settings.

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