Trouble Re-installing Panther

Hi
My girlfriend recently bought herself a new MacBook to replace her old, slow an increasingly uncooperative iBook. Having copied across all of her User details, I decided that it would be worth completely erasing it and reinstalling the OS to see if it would make it a bit more sprightly. However, we've lost the original install discs for the iBook so I was hoping to be able to run the install from a commercial copy of Panther I bought a while ago for my old PowerMac I no longer use. However, the iBook refuses to boot from the install CD, it just sits there with the grey Apple logo, doing nothing.
The only reason I can think for this happening is because the iBook already has 10.3.9 installed on it when the disc only has 10.3.2. Any help you can give me would be great.
*iBook vital statistics: iBook G4 1.2 GHz, 512MB RAM, OS X 10.3.9*
I should note that this iBook is responsible for two out of four unresolved questions on these forums, so I don't hold a **** of a lot of hope.

Hi Rob!
"...the iBook already has 10.3.9 installed on it when the disc only has 10.3.2."
It's not that it was upgraded to Panther 10.3.9, but the pre-installed system was higher than 10.3.2.
Info here Don't install older versions of Mac OS than what comes with your computer.
The iBook G4/1.2 14-Inch (Early 2004 - Op), had Panther 10.3.3 pre-installed.
And the Apple iBook G4/1.2 12-Inch (Late 2004 - Op), had Panther 10.3.5 pre-installed.
If you call Apple Customer Service 1-800-767-2775, provide the specifications of the iBook, you can order a set of replacement system discs, for a fee.
ali b

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