Trouble removing hard drive for upgrade in Mac Pro

I have a 2008 Mac Pro and have read how to install new drives. The problem I am having is getting one of the drive bays, drive bay 1, to release. It seems like I can remove the other drive bays OK, but that one is stuck but good. After looking inside, do you think it may be blocked somehow with the part that stands up vertically inside the case next to drive bay 1? I was wondering if anyone else had issues with this bay or the cages release? The others seem to slide out OK.
Thanks for any thoughts on this.

That's a good tip actually
In most cases, I can get the HD trays out of the Mac Pro without any problem. However, sometimes tray 1 (which sits on top of the fan) can be very snug. Using fingers on the rear of the HD along with the other hand pulling from the front tab is the best way I have found to remove the tray without placing too much tension on the front of the tray.
The Mac Pro front tray lip can only accept so much pull pressure before the lip starts to bend which actually makes the tray even harder to remove. Using a few fingers on the rear of the HD provides a more balanced force for removing the HD.
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