Trouble setting up a WDS network

I am trying to setup a WDS network with two AirPort Extreme N devices. The first is hardlined and in the basement setup as WDS Main. The second is on the 3rd floor and entirely wireless with the exception of a printer connected to it and is setup as WDS Remote. The network works, but any apple machines take sometimes up to minutes to load web pages, while Windows machines load them instantly. I have run speed and ping test from both types of machine, and the numbers are good from both. Any ideas as to why the apple machines connect so slow?

Please see my response to your other post.
You do not want to use WDS for this as it will cut your network bandwidth by 50%. Instead, use Apple's "extend a wireless network" feature. This will provide much better performance than a WDS arrangement.

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