Trouble with Creative Zen

Hi
I've been checking the topics for a problem similar to mine but haven't found any. I've had my creative zen for about 3 years now and have loved it. However, in the past few months I've been having trouble with it. While playing a song (either while laying stable in my car, or on my arm while working out), the player will just randomly die. I try to turn it back on, and have no luck. I then reset it by using the back of my earing, and somtimes it will start back up, and other times it won't. If it doesn't start back up right away, I'm able to plug it in to charge, and it will usually let me turn it back on after charging for a few minutes. I notice that its never on empty, and there seems to be at least half a battery level left. Some days the player will die randomly several times, or other times it will go days before I have a problem with it. I have tried to reboot it, and clear off the entire player, upgrade the firm-ware, and still have the same issue. Any ideas? Is it toast?
Thanks!

Is the player recognised in the Device Manager, do you see it listed there (perhaps as an unknown device, or with an exclamation mark)?
Check out this knowledgebase article for some useful tips if the player isn't recognised, it'll take you through them step-by-step:
http:// us.creative.com/support/kb/article.asp?l=2&sid=9287
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    Country: United States of America Support Inquiry: ID(8) My MP3 player is not detected
    Product: ZEN Vision:M
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    Purchase Date: 20/6/2007 Operating System: Windows Vista 32-bit
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