Trouble with DVCProHD 16x9 aspect ratio in iDVD

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I've scoured the discussion boards and read thru the manuals and I just cannot figure out what the problem is or find the right answers. Okay...
I shot a short with the Panasonic HVX200 in 720p24PN. I cut the film in FCP 5.0.4 and would like to export it to make a DVD with iDVD 5.0.1. (Note: this is not the final version of the film I'm going to be making. I simply need to make a copy of my rough cut to give to my composer). I exported a Quicktime movie using the "current settings" and unchecked the "make movie self contained" box. I created a project in iDVD, dragged the QT movie in and burned it. When played on my computer and my DVD player displayed on my 32" HD widescreen TV, I get small bars on the right and left and the image is squeezed giving it a squashed from the sides picture. So my first question is, can iDVD 5 create a DVD from this source material and maintain the proper aspect ratio (16x9) or is the software too old? In other words, would I have to upgrade to iDVD 8? Or am I missing a step in the process that fixes this? Or is it a case of a plain QT movie not being the proper tool? Do I need to export it using QT Conversion or Compressor and make the aspect ratio custom? I have messed around with this and I don't seem to be getting the magic numbers here. I have a feeling I have the right applications, but I'm mixing and matching the wrong ones to achieve my goal. I know the people I'll be giving the rough cut to will view them on widescreen TV's so I'd love for it to play in full 16x9 for them.
Thanks in advance for your help!

I didn't really feel it was a specific iDVD question since so much of the work begins and involves what you do in FCP first. I posted the question in that forum as well, but I'm just wondering if this is a common situation or rare. Doesn't seem like it would be a rare situation, but that's why I'm asking. Is what I'm trying to do too advanced for a "consumer" grade program like iDVD. And that's not meant as a slam on the program. Anyway, enough about me. What about me?

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DVCProHD 16x9 aspect ratio troubleshooting

I've scoured the discussion boards and read thru the manuals and I just cannot figure out what the problem is or find the right answers. Okay...
I shot a short with the Panasonic HVX200 in 720p24PN. I cut the film in FCP 5.0.4 and would like to export it to make a DVD (Note: this is not the final version of the film I'm going to be making. I simply need to make a quick and dirty copy of my rough cut to give to my composer). I exported a Quicktime movie using the "current settings" and unchecked the "make movie self contained" box. I created a project, dragged the QT movie in and burned it. When played on my computer and my DVD player displayed on my 32" HD widescreen TV, I get small bars on the right and left and the image is squeezed giving it a squashed from the sides picture. Do I need to export it using QT Conversion or Compressor and make the aspect ratio custom? I have messed around with the settings, but I don't seem to be getting the magic numbers here. I have a feeling I have the right applications, but I'm mixing and matching the wrong ones to achieve my goal. I know the people I'll be giving the rough cut to will view them on widescreen TV's so I'd love for it to play in full 16x9 for them.
Thanks in advance for your help!

Once you've exported your QT Movie (using the same method as before), open it QuickTime Player (7.1 or later) and confirm that the Conform Aperture property is set correctly. (Actually, from what I remember of FCP 5.x, it did not set that property for QT exports at all.)
For DVCProHD material, the setting you'll want to use is Production, which should adjust the display size to 1280x720 (from the current 960x720). Encoding with Compressor or DVDSP after that point - be sure to save your changes in QT player, of course - should produce the correct DVD-Video image.
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I'm importing a 720x480 (3:2) aspect ratio movie with square pixels into iDVD. iDVD scrunches it up and makes everyone look too tall and thin, though the movie looks fine in QT. Are there any special settings in FCP when exporting that can assure the proper aspect ratio in iDVD? (I was told iDVD only supports 4:3 and 16:9, which may make this a moot question.)
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Denis Murphy wrote:
Where did you get this footage by the way? If you're creating square-pixel assets (in photoshop or after effects for example) for a SD NTSC project, you should create them at 720x534 (for 4:3) or 864x480 (for 16:9).
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What a lot of back and forth! But I got what I want, and I thank you for your suggestion.
Now I'd like to figure out how to deal with what I suspect is frame slippage on the DVD from my original 24fps, but I think I can deal with that, as DVD is not the final output.
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This is baffling me.
Somebody please help me. I have a deadline to finish this film TOMORROW and I'm at a complete loss. I'm sure it's something very simple that I just haven't thought of yet, but I've spent hours on this problem and I'm tearing my hair out!

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