Troubles With Network Setup ( 1 modem, 2 routers, 2 LANS, & a home server)

Purchased the AEBS yesterday and have been having a devil of a time setting it up. Here's the network set-up:
Cable ISP -> modem -> Netgear Router (b/g) that belongs to my landlord -> AEBS for my personal (and not shared with the LL) LAN
My big issue is that I can't get more than one wireless connection at a time from the AEBS.
However, I think it's important to ask about the best set up in this situation. For now, I'm interested in getting proper wireless connections for the 20 or so devices that need it (fyi - wired connections currently working). In the very near future (by the weekend) I will be adding a server to the mix (thanks to Amahi) that will be responsible for the DHCP of my LAN.
What is the best way to set the system up so that i can get the wireless i need now while also being able to convert the system with relative ease in the near future?

Hello Stecca. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
In your current configuration, your network is still "shared" by your landlord's LAN. You basically have two ways to configure your AEBS: 1) Router Mode: NAT & DHCP enabled, or 2) Bridge Mode: NAT & DHCP disabled.
Regardless of which of these configuration you choose, ALL wired or wireless clients connected to your AEBS would still need to go through the Netgear router for Internet access. In the first option, your AEBS would be configured with a Private IP Address from the Netgear router and provide local clients with a different subnet addressing scheme. With the second option, all wired or wireless clients connected to the AEBS would get their IP addressing from the Netgear router.
Typically, when you have two routers in series, the second or downstream router is configured as a bridge.

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# Virtual hosts
Include conf/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf
# Local access to the Apache HTTP Server Manual
#Include conf/extra/httpd-manual.conf
# Distributed authoring and versioning (WebDAV)
#Include conf/extra/httpd-dav.conf
# Various default settings
Include conf/extra/httpd-default.conf
Include conf/extra/php5_module.conf
# Configure mod_proxy_html to understand HTML4/XHTML1
<IfModule proxy_html_module>
Include conf/extra/proxy-html.conf
</IfModule>
# Secure (SSL/TLS) connections
#Include conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf
# Note: The following must must be present to support
# starting without SSL on platforms with no /dev/random equivalent
# but a statically compiled-in mod_ssl.
<IfModule ssl_module>
SSLRandomSeed startup builtin
SSLRandomSeed connect builtin
</IfModule>
# uncomment out the below to deal with user agents that deliberately
# violate open standards by misusing DNT (DNT *must* be a specific
# end-user choice)
#<IfModule setenvif_module>
#BrowserMatch "MSIE 10.0;" bad_DNT
#</IfModule>
#<IfModule headers_module>
#RequestHeader unset DNT env=bad_DNT
#</IfModule>
IncludeOptional conf/sites-enabled/*.conf
IncludeOptional conf/mods-enabled/*.conf
Here's my /etc/httpd/conf/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf
# Virtual Hosts
# Required modules: mod_log_config
# If you want to maintain multiple domains/hostnames on your
# machine you can setup VirtualHost containers for them. Most configurations
# use only name-based virtual hosts so the server doesn't need to worry about
# IP addresses. This is indicated by the asterisks in the directives below.
# Please see the documentation at
# <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/vhosts/>
# for further details before you try to setup virtual hosts.
# You may use the command line option '-S' to verify your virtual host
# configuration.
# VirtualHost example:
# Almost any Apache directive may go into a VirtualHost container.
# The first VirtualHost section is used for all requests that do not
# match a ServerName or ServerAlias in any <VirtualHost> block.
<VirtualHost *:80>
ServerAdmin [email protected]
DocumentRoot "/etc/httpd/docs/dummy-host.example.com"
ServerName dummy-host.example.com
ServerAlias www.dummy-host.example.com
ErrorLog "/var/log/httpd/dummy-host.example.com-error_log"
CustomLog "/var/log/httpd/dummy-host.example.com-access_log" common
</VirtualHost>
<VirtualHost *:80>
ServerAdmin [email protected]
DocumentRoot "/etc/httpd/docs/dummy-host2.example.com"
ServerName dummy-host2.example.com
ErrorLog "/var/log/httpd/dummy-host2.example.com-error_log"
CustomLog "/var/log/httpd/dummy-host2.example.com-access_log" common
</VirtualHost>
<VirtualHost *:80>
ServerAdmin my_email_address
ServerName li165-35.members.linode.com
ServerAlias www.li165-35.members.linode.com
DocumentRoot /srv/http/li165-35.members.linode.com/public_html/
ErrorLog /srv/http/li165-35.members.linode.com/logs/error.log
CustomLog /srv/http/li165-35.members.linode.com/logs/access.log combined
<Directory />
Order deny,allow
Allow from all
Require all granted
</Directory>
</VirtualHost>
I used chown/chgrp -R http to make sure everything in /srv/http was managed by http.
What am I doing wrong? Also, that's my FQDN. I'm not sure if it's insecure or not to post that. I mean, I want people to visit the site.
I also put a index.html in my /srv/http/default and /srv/httpd/li.../public_html folders.
index.html :
<html>
<head />
<body>
<p>Hello, world!</p>
</body>
</html>
I will say this, I don't have any DNS type stuff set-up. I don't even know what that is (I know, I should read up).
But even if I type in just the IP, I still get the permission error.
Edit : I'm an idiot! The link actually works! The IP itself fails but the url I posted for the virtual host works! The FQDN actually works. Omg. Is this because I updated the /etc/hosts file on MY system to recognize the FQDN with the IP?
Last edited by MutantJohn (2015-01-21 19:03:43)

after I downloaded the 10.8 Mac OS I could not open the Cisco Connect Software. I went to chat with the customer support people and they beat me around the bush and they knew that it was not compatible with 10.8 Spoke with two different people, asked a crazy amount of questions about the router and the connection but in the end of the hour plus convo with them they said it was not compatible when they know all along. I mean, come on I can not be the first person with this problem.

HP Laserjet CP1025nw problem with network setup

I want to ask does this printer model have some defect when connected to network? Because we tried to connect it via wired network and it will work by a few minutes then after it will not connect. I tried pinging and it shows destination host is unreachable. It was manually set for IP Address.
We sent it back to the vendor to get a new one and still the same problem persist. We tried different HP Printer model but it does not cause any problem. I am very sure problem arises from the printer.

Hi,
I uses the CP1025nw on a wired connection on a general manner with no such issues.. it is not a model defect or similar.
Have you tried using a different ethernet cord?
Have you tried plugging the cable into another port lan of your router?
While the computer cannot connect to the printer, does it have an IP address available or will it fully disconnect from the network? (that is in order to better understand if the printer disconnects or only not available for the computer)
Does the same happens from a single computer or do you see the same behavior from other devices on your network?
I suggest connecting the printer with a USB and updaing the latest firmware, that can be download from the following link:
http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software13/COL34894/lj-115939-3/LJCP1020_FW_Upgrade_Security-20150114....
Once you are done check for any difference. if the same persists try connecting an ethernet cable directly from the printer to your PC to ensure its functionality.
Can you see any similar behavior or may you see any difference? that allow isolating any cause to better understand if that also happen on a direct connection, (to simulate a different network).
Please let me know the results,
Shlomi
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I am having the same issue I think. I have a Motorola hooked up to my Airport Extreme. The last 5 mornings I haven't been able to access the internet. Yesterday I went and checked the lights on the front of the modem and noticed that only the top 2 were lit- the third one blinked. So I reset the modem. Worked fine the rest of the day. This morning I booted up my MBP and same thing. Looked at the lights- the third light is just blinking. Called Comcast and they checked. Said my modem was 'offline' and not connecting. Said that it had gone bad- I suspected so. Not too long ago we had to replace the old Apple router with a new one so I was guessing that the modem was bad and they confirmed it. So I will be shopping for a new one. FYI- reset the modem again this morning after talking to Comcast and it's working fine. Just thought I'd chime in. Judy

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Hello..I tried configuring my G3 running Mac OS X Server 10.1
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Email messages sent to the account, however, do not appear in Apple Mail -- the inbox is just empty.
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Suggestions?

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Hi
I’m sorry that the guide is unreliable for you, although it does seem strange that it is. Perhaps there is something fundamentally wrong with the configuration of the AD Server?
Apple have made binding clients to Active Directory relatively simple and easy since 10.4. You had to work a little harder in 10.3. All I can add is successful integration depends almost entirely on how well the AD Server is set up. It might be worth your while to look more closely at that for a solution?
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Tony

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recently, i have been playing with sun Java system application server 9.0 and try a couple of examples, but i was in trouble. for example, i try customer-cmp-ear example, and i can create db, but i can not Set up JDBC resources, and i always get the following error:
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i take a look at the description of the example, one thing i do not quite understand, at the common instruction, i am required to set javaee.server.passwordfile property, does it mean i have to create a passwordfile? where do I put it ? i hope someone can help me, i will really appreciate it.
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junjun

I solved it.
Change the file"build.properties.sample" to
"build.properties"
Maybe it's a bug in J2ee TutorialThe instructions in the About chapter tell you to copy build.properties.sample to build.propertieshttp://java.sun.com/javaee/5/docs/tutorial/doc/?wp405013&About.html#wp87965
-Ian

Advanced? Network Setup Help

Hi All,
I revisited my network problems (posted earlier) and everything is now working peachy.
My current setup:
cable modem -> airport extreme -> wireless computers
(wan) | ---> linksys router ---> VOIP
|--> Buffalo Linkstation
|--> wired computer
Ok. If I plugin to the linksys router I can see the Buffalo Linkstation (which is a shared NAS drive).
I can't however see the Buffalo via wireless. I am positive this is due to my configuration of the network - I DHCP (10.1.X.X) w/ the Airport Extreme and DHCP (192.168.X.X) with the Linksys. While technical, I don't mess with network configuration very often.
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Thanks for the help in advance!
David

gnash, Welcome to the discussion area!
Your problem is caused because you have 2 routers in your network. Therefore the wired computers are on a different subnet than the wireless computers.
One solution is to replace the Linksys router with a simple Ethernet switch or hub.
Another solutions is to reconfigure the AEBS so that it does not distribute IP addresses and then connect your network like this:
modem->Linksys->[LAN] AEBS
In this configuration, the Linksys will provide IP addresses to both the wired and wireless clients.

Which consumer-type DSL modem/routers pass inbound VPN?

My setup is a Mac OS X 10.5.7 Server behind a DSL modem/router with a fixed IP address. Until recently, I had a working inbound VPN setup (PPTP), where the modem passed VPN on to the server. I had this with various brands of modem/routers over the years.
Now, my provider shipped me a new modem/router because the old one broke. I received a Linksys WAG54G2. And my inbound VPN stopped working. It turns out Cisco has explicitly crippled its consumer modem/routers not to be able to pass on VPN to the inside. I can pass TCP and UDP ports on, but not the GRE protocol (IP 47 if I recall correctly).
So, now I am looking for a decent DSL-modem/router that allows me to setup inbound VPN to my OS X Server again but is also decent in the firewall & NAT area.

Hello Leif,
Thanks for replying. Note: I already have a VPN connection (PPTP, though with problems which I am now trying to debug)
In answer to your questions:
- I run the latest firmware on the linksys already
- The firewall in the linksys gateway is not configurable, it is either on or off
- The server is behind the linksys
- When the client is on the LAN (where the server also is), I get a perfect PPTP VPN
- When the client is on the internet somewhere (I am setting up an outside-in VPN):
- PPTP works, but in the one location I tested it dies every time after 2 min 30 sec. The server log says "client hung up".
- I cannot get L2TP to work, not even on the LAN, not even with all firewalls turned off. The client ppp.log says:
Thu Jul 23 15:48:19 2009 : IPSec connection started
Thu Jul 23 15:48:19 2009 : IPSec phase 1 client started
Thu Jul 23 15:48:19 2009 : IPSec phase 1 server replied
Thu Jul 23 15:48:19 2009 : IPSec phase 1 established
Thu Jul 23 15:48:20 2009 : IPSec phase 2 started
Thu Jul 23 15:48:20 2009 : IPSec phase 2 established
Thu Jul 23 15:48:20 2009 : IPSec connection established
Thu Jul 23 15:48:20 2009 : L2TP sent SCCRQ
Thu Jul 23 15:48:40 2009 : L2TP cannot connect to the server
The server log says:
2009-07-23 15:48:35 CEST Incoming call... Address given to client = 192.168.2.15
Thu Jul 23 15:48:35 2009 : Directory Services Authentication plugin initialized
Thu Jul 23 15:48:35 2009 : Directory Services Authorization plugin initialized
Thu Jul 23 15:48:35 2009 : L2TP incoming call in progress from '192.168.2.88'...
Thu Jul 23 15:48:35 2009 : L2TP received SCCRQ
Thu Jul 23 15:48:35 2009 : L2TP sent SCCRP
2009-07-23 15:48:55 CEST --> Client with address = 192.168.2.15 has hungup
Windows is not involved in any way, it is all Mac OS X.

Network Setup, Please Help.

Hello there,
Decided to install Arch once again, but I'm totally stuck with network setup. I've tried many different combinations in the config files, but nothing at all seems to work. I know the device is working (with Windows), and my details are correct. Perhaps I've misplaced something.
On issuing a network restart, I receive a message saying "SIOCADDRT: No such device". A similar message is issued when the network stops. I can only ping my own IP, not even the router's.
Could anyone lend a hand? I'm pulling my hair out here!
Thanks.
Device: eth0
My IP: 192.168.1.64
Router IP: 192.168.1.1
grep | eth0
eth0: RTL8168b/8111b at 0xf881c000, 00:1d:7d:95:65:e9, IRQ 16
route -n This was different at some points, but I've played around with so many options that it's hard to keep track.
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
rc.conf
HOSTNAME="linty"
lo="lo 127.0.0.1"
eth0="eth0 192.168.1.64 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255"
INTERFACES=(lo eth0)
gateway="default gw 192.168.1.1"
ROUTES=(gateway)
hosts
# I really wasn't sure what to do with this one.
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost linty
resolv.conf
nameserver 208.67.222.222
nameserver 208.67.222.220

OK... let's do this.
Your configurations seems correct, so to start troubleshooting we first ping your router with ping 192.168.1.1 do you get an answer? If you do good if you do not then as root issue this command: mii-tool to find out what is your Nic card doing and let's go from there.
R.

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