True 23.976 fps support?

Can anyone confirm that OS 10.7 supports true 24P (23.976)? I have a 2011 Mac mini used as a dedicated HTPC. I know that the Intel 3000 integrated graphics is not capable so there is a hardware limitation. It rounds 23.976 to 24. However the AMD graphics card can properly handle 23.976 fps material. I seen this confirmed with a 2011 mini running Win7 and the AMD graphics. I've not seen it with OS X. Can anyone confirm that Apple supports this with the AMD version minis?

...crickets...
I can't believe no one knows the answer to this. I don't have a TV capable of 24P (yet ) so I can't test this.
After some more searching can someone point me to the answer to...
1) Where is the documentation on the Apple AMD Raedon 6630m drivers? I am wondeirng if Apple drivers allow this?
If they don't then I guess I would have my answer...

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Why Does Premiere CS6 Output 29.97fps when Encoding to 23.976 fps?

My project is XDCam EX, 23.976 fps. I exported to DVD MPEG and both VLC and Windows Explorer details report 29.97fps file format.
I downloaded the latest updates two days ago. Just wondering why the encoder refuses to leave 23.976fps footage and project alone and convert it to 29.97? Render settings are clearly 23.976fps. Bug?

i didn't read the forum i linked, so yes, i was wrong in the way adobe converts it to 29.97, pulldown vs added frame. the output file will be reported as 29.97, but mediainfo can see the flags and reports it as 23.976 with 2:3 pulldown. when i look at the .m2v file from premiere, frame by frame i can see the two interlaced frames from pulldown. so are those true interlaced frames or does the media player program generate those interlaced frames as a result of the flag telling it to?
Telecine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wiki:
Reverse telecine (a.k.a. inverse telecine (IVTC), reverse pulldown)
Some DVD players, line doublers, and personal video recorders are designed to detect and remove 2:3 pulldown from telecined video sources, thereby reconstructing the original 24 frame/s film frames. This technique is known as “reverse” or “inverse” telecine. Benefits of reverse telecine include high-quality non-interlaced display on compatible display devices and the elimination of redundant data for compression purposes.
my understanding is the interlaced frames are real. it is 29.97fps, with 2 of 5 as interlaced. the reverse pulldown reconstructs a single frame from the two interlaced, dropping the fps to the original 24p. is this not the case with adobe's pulldown?
media player:
Video: MPEG2 Video 720x480 29.97fps 7000kbps [Video]
Audio: PCM 48000Hz stereo 1536kbps [A: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 1536 kb/s]
mediainfo:
Frame rate
: 23.976 fps
Standard
: NTSC
Color space
: YUV
Chroma subsampling
: 4:2:0
Bit depth
: 8 bits
Scan type
: Progressive
Scan order
: 2:3 Pulldown

No sync with audio for input files AVI MPEG4 23.976 fps

No sync with audio for input files AVI MPEG4 23.976 fps.
If i open in Premiere Pro CC any file AVI MPEG4 23.976 fps (with internal audio MP3 or AC3) i got growing out of sync from start to end of file, even while play it at internal media player of Premiere Pro CC for source file.
Using external audio files AC3 or MP3 not help.
In properties of source file i see 23.97 fps instead of 23.976 fps, and time of internal file is wrong.
If i try Clip > Modify > Interpreter Footage > custom settings to 23.976 time i see right time, but when i click "OK", custom fps saved as 23.98 fps instead of 23.976 fps and time of source goes wrong again.
So i always get bad sync such files in Premiere Pro CC while play or export them.
But in all media players, other editors, and in PluralEyes sync OK with all such files.
If i open M2TS or MP4 (H264 23.976 fps) source file, all OK, it it shows as 23.976 fps, time is right, and sync OK.
So i want to add automatic detection 23.976 fps instead of 23.97 fps for source AVI files with 23.976 fps.
Is it possible?

Yes, i know what XviD and DivX does not edit well in Premiere Pro. And because of that i create this topic "No sync with audio for input files AVI MPEG4 23.976 fps" and was hoping to get help in solving the problem, rather than stating that the problem really is.
XviD and DivX it is MPEG4.
Xvid (formerly "XviD") is a video codec library following the MPEG-4 standard, specifically MPEG-4 Part 2 Advanced Simple Profile (ASP).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvid
I have many old useful materials in XviD and DivX formats, and have no other formats versions for that material.
XviD and DivX are very compact formats to store video at acceptable quality and it is fully compatible with all players and editors for PC except Premiere Pro.
You suggest to convert them to another format (DV) to make compatible with Premiere Pro... It is not what i want.
Let me explaine:
1) Size of files
uploaded AVI XviD 1280x720 file with very good quality have size 1.9Gb (with audio AC3 2.0). If i convert it via VirtualDub from "AVI XviD" to AVI DVCPRO HD 1280x720 (without audio) it have size 35Gb, and quality is worst than at XviD-HD, and also converting take much time.
2) Compatibility with AC3 and MP3 audio inside AVI
AVI DV / AVI DVCPRO not compatible with AC3 and MP3 audio inside, only with PCM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV
AVI XviD and DivX can use AC3, MP3, OGG audio without any problems.
Size of 1Hour 30Min "AC3 Stereo 48kHz 16bit 384Kbps" file is 257Mb
Size of 1Hour 30Min "PCM Stereo 48kHz 16bit" file is 1030Mb
3) I have and use hardware H264 encoder card "Matrox CompressHD" for export my material
http://www.matrox.com/video/en/products/compresshd/specs/
This card works only from Adobe Premiere Pro, so i can not use it from VirtualDub or other editing software.
So i need a full compatibility Adobe Premiere Pro with all popular standard formats of input files.
Here we see:
http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/extend.html#Supportedvideoformats
Supported video formats:
"Adobe Premiere Pro CC leads the industry with incredible, thorough native media support, meaning you can edit virtually all of the major video, image, and audio formats natively without waiting."
As most PC users knows, AVI XviD it is a very popular free video format, and would be very useful if Adobe will make normal compatibility with that format in Premiere Pro.

Sequence w 23.976 fps exporting as h.264 QT with 22.69fps

I exported an h.264 QuickTime from Premiere Pro CC (Mac). The project/sequence was set to 23.976 fps. The export settings for the QuickTime was also set to 23.976 fps. However, the QuickTime that was created had a frame rate of 22.69fps. I have never had an issue like this before.
I had Premiere add the QuickTime to the project on export. That QuickTime file displayed 23.976 fps in the Premiere Pro Project Panel. However, the same QuickTime is showing as 22.69fps on the QuickTime inspector in QuickTime, as well as a third party application.
The odd thing is, after several attempts with the above set up, sometimes the exported QuickTime has the correct frame rate of 23.976 fps and sometimes the exported QuickTime has a frame rate of 22.69fps (incorrect), so it is not consistent.
I have reported this issue to Adobe. The Adobe tech, via a screen sharing session, also noticed this inconsistency first-hand and agreed there was an issue of some kind.
Does anyone have any ideas what could be going on?

any ideas what could be going on?
You're using QuickTime. It's buggy.

Add audio from 25 fps video to 23.976 fps

Hello,
I want to add audio file from 25 fps to match with another video with 23.976 fps using Audition. How can i do that ?!
25 fps video settings:
General
Complete name                            : 01.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 170 MiB
Duration                                 : 20mn 28s
Overall bit rate                         : 1 161 Kbps
Writing application                      : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
Writing library                          : VirtualDub build 24415/release
Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : MPEG-4 Visual
Format settings, BVOP                    : 1
Format settings, QPel                    : No
Format settings, GMC                     : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix                  : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode                              : Packed bitstream
Codec ID                                 : DX50
Codec ID/Hint                            : DivX 5
Duration                                 : 20mn 28s
Bit rate                                 : 1 039 Kbps
Width                                    : 640 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.135
Stream size                              : 152 MiB (90%)
Writing library                          : DivX 6.7.0 (UTC 2007-09-20)
Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : MPEG Audio
Format version                           : Version 1
Format profile                           : Layer 3
Mode                                     : Joint stereo
Mode extension                           : MS Stereo
Codec ID                                 : 55
Codec ID/Hint                            : MP3
Duration                                 : 20mn 27s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 112 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : 22ms
Stream size                              : 16.4 MiB (10%)
Alignment                                : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 40 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration             : 500 ms
23.976 fps video settings:
General
Complete name                            : new_01.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 557 MiB
Duration                                 : 24mn 7s
Overall bit rate                         : 3 228 Kbps
Writing library                          : VirtualDub build 32842/release
Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                           : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP                    : 2
Format settings, QPel                    : No
Format settings, GMC                     : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix                  : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode                              : Packed bitstream
Codec ID                                 : XVID
Codec ID/Hint                            : XviD
Duration                                 : 24mn 7s
Bit rate                                 : 1 807 Kbps
Width                                    : 1 024 pixels
Height                                   : 768 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 23.976 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.096
Stream size                              : 312 MiB (56%)
Writing library                          : XviD 64
Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings, Endianness              : Little
Format settings, Sign                    : Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 24mn 7s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 411.2 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 244 MiB (44%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration             : 500 ms
Best Regards,

Thanks SteveG,
Ok, What about add the same audio from 25 fps video to 29.97 fps video with settings below:
General
Complete name                            : 01.wmv
Format                                   : Windows Media
File size                                : 259 MiB
Duration                                 : 24mn 8s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
Overall bit rate                         : 1 501 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 1 507 Kbps
Encoded date                             : UTC 2007-06-25 14:54:25.750
Writing application                      : TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress Version. 4.0.3.169
Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : VC-1
Format profile                           : MP@ML
Codec ID                                 : WMV3
Codec ID/Info                            : Windows Media Video 9
Codec ID/Hint                            : WMV3
Description of the codec                 : Windows Media Video 9 - Professional
Duration                                 : 24mn 8s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 300 Kbps
Width                                    : 640 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 29.970 fps
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.141
Stream size                              : 224 MiB (87%)
Language                                 : Japanese
Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : WMA
Format version                           : Version 2
Codec ID                                 : 161
Codec ID/Info                            : Windows Media Audio
Description of the codec                 : Windows Media Audio 9.1 - 192 kbps, 48 kHz, stereo 1-pass CBR
Duration                                 : 24mn 8s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 33.1 MiB (13%)
Language                                 : Japanese

I have a video in excellent quality (1280x720 23,976 fps) I burn the dvd in encore cs6 with hd menu and I get pixelated. I've done transcoding but It downgrade to 480 I need urgent help.

I have a video in excellent quality (1280x720 23,976 fps) I burn the dvd in encore cs6 with hd menu and I get pixelated. I've done transcoding but It downgrade to 480 I need urgent help.

Hi,
first, sorry if my english sucks jajaa i speach spanish, havent practice my english for a while.
first i edited my video in premier cc
sequence 1280X720, 59,94 fps
48000hz - stereo
the i linked it with dynamik link to after, make some color correction, etc etc etc
i renderd in quicktime animation
my video looks fine in my computer, but when i send my .mov video to encore (cs6) in a HD MENU and standard menú, the image sucks.
i have done the transcoding in encore, but i doesnt work either. i dont know what else to do.

23.976 fps and exporting to film ...

dear all ...
i have a project that shot on RED with 23.976 fps ... the final out put will be to film ... so what is the right workflow to do so? can i work directly on this frame rate or i should convert to 24 fps? or i just export to DPX with 24 fps settings? if i want to convert 23.976 fps footage to 24 fps, what should i do? just use interpret footage?
thanks for co-operation

> if i want to convert 23.976 fps footage to 24 fps, what should i do? just use interpret footage?
If you interpret a 23.976fps movie as a 24.000fps movie, then it will play 0.1% faster, but the images will all be original frames (as opposed to retiming the movie such that it plays at the same rate but with interpolated image information to fill in the in-between frames).
That is often fine. You'd need to make sure to retime your audio by the same amount.

Had anyone worked with 23.976 fps video?

It's the new hi def video frame rate that is supported in Logic 8, but I'm having some problems.
I also have a Canopus ADVC110 firewire to analog video out and the video is glitchy and crash prone.
I don't know if the Canopus really supports 23.976. Is there another video box that does support this frame rate?
Any info regarding this would really help me. Thanks
Marty

Some more info on La Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p
23.976p
Many 24p productions, especially those that are made only for TV and video distribution, actually have a frame rate of 24 * 29.97 / 30 frame/s, or 23.976frame/s (24/100.1% to be exact). Many use the term "24p" as a shorthand for this frame rate, since "23.976" does not roll off the tongue as easily. This is because the "30frame/s" framerate of NTSC is actually 30/100.1%, also referred to as 29.97frame/s – this framerate is matched when video at 23.976frame/s has a 3:2 pulldown applied. Similarly, 60i is shorthand for 60/100.1% fields per second.
Film productions may be shot at exactly 24.000 frame/s. This can be a source of confusion and technical difficulties if material is treated as normal video, since the slightly differing framerates can be problematic for video and audio sync. However, this is not a problem if the video material is merely treated as a carrier for material which is known by the editing system to be "true" 24frame/s, and audio is recorded separately from moving images, as is normal film practice.
Fun stuff!
Hey iS - you always show up for the interesting threads

Lack of true Ubuntu 64-bit support for Connect add-in

Dear Adobe,
This well-worn conversation seems to have been asked a few times before, and ignored a few times before, so you'll forgive me for re-opening it again.
I downloaded the 64-bit debian package of your Adobe Connect add-in yesterday from Adobe's website. Here it is sitting on my local disk:
$ ls ~/.shared/
total 540108
drwxrwxrwx 2 root     root          4096 2012-05-31 15:00 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root     root          4096 2012-04-23 22:24 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     root     540016672 2012-05-27 00:03 temp.tar
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     root       4026194 2012-05-30 22:51 ConnectAddin64.deb
I then installed the package. However, when I tried to join my meeting, before the "Connecting..." screen appears with the progress bar, a blank white page flashed very briefly saying "Adobe Connect add-in not installed". Unsurprisingly, I wasn't able to join my meeting, and your online diagnostics site also confirmed that the add-in wasn't installed in my browser (Firefox 11).
Then, reading other users' tales of woe, I located and analysed the installed binary, and this is what I saw:
$ readelf -h /usr/local/connectaddin
ELF Header:
Magic:   7f 45 4c 46 01 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Class:                             ELF32
Data:                              2's complement, little endian
Version:                           1 (current)
OS/ABI:                            UNIX - System V
ABI Version:                       0
Type:                              EXEC (Executable file)
Machine:                           Intel 80386
Version:                           0x1
Entry point address:               0x8055810
Start of program headers:          52 (bytes into file)
Start of section headers:          7629080 (bytes into file)
Flags:                             0x0
Size of this header:               52 (bytes)
Size of program headers:           32 (bytes)
Number of program headers:         9
Size of section headers:           40 (bytes)
Number of section headers:         42
Section header string table index: 39
This is a 32-bit binary. There is absolutely no mistake about it. And even though it is a GTK binary, it fails to work on a 64-bit system with 32-bit dual support due to the fact it appears to have the search paths to its libraries hard-coded into it:
$ export GTK_PATH=/usr/lib32/gtk-2.0
$ ./connectaddin
(connectaddin:5416): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
(connectaddin:5416): Gtk-WARNING **: Loading IM context type 'ibus' failed
You notice how GTK_PATH is ignored. The path in the above message is where the 32-bit binary would be sitting if I were on a 32-bit native system. However, as I'm on a 64-bit system, my 32-bit libraries are in:
$ ls /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules
total 180
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2012-05-31 17:23 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2012-05-31 17:38 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18740 2011-04-15 02:48 im-am-et.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5516 2011-04-15 02:48 im-cedilla.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7060 2011-04-15 02:48 im-cyrillic-translit.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17976 2011-03-04 13:49 im-ibus.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7484 2011-04-15 02:48 im-inuktitut.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6160 2011-04-15 02:48 im-ipa.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9620 2011-04-15 02:48 im-multipress.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9540 2011-04-15 02:48 im-thai.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18728 2011-04-15 02:48 im-ti-er.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18728 2011-04-15 02:48 im-ti-et.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7372 2011-04-15 02:48 im-viqr.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26284 2011-04-15 02:48 im-xim.so
Will somebody please let us users know when Adobe will be (or won't be, for that matter) actually providing a true 64-bit linux version of their Adobe Connect add-in, instead of packaging the 32-bit version of the add-in in an archive that says 64-bit?
Thanks in advance,

That is the last supported player for Linux using the NPAPI. Chrome's new API, PPAPI, is still going to be supported in Linux, Mac and PC OS's and will have the current version of Flash Player for all those OS's.
Here is Adobe's statement regarding Flash Player on Linux OS's.
Adobe wrote:
Linux:
Adobe has been working closely with Google to develop a single, modern API for hosting plug-ins within the browser. The PPAPI, code-named "Pepper", aims to provide a layer between the plug-in and browser that abstracts away differences between browser and operating system implementations. You can find more information on the Pepper API at http://code.google.com/p/ppapi/.
Because of this work, Adobe has been able to partner with Google in providing a "Pepper" implementation of Flash Player for all x86/64 platforms supported by the Google Chrome browser. Google will begin distributing this new Pepper-based Flash Player as part of Chrome on all platforms, including Linux, later this year.
For Flash Player releases after 11.2, the Flash Player browser plug-in for Linux will only be available via the "Pepper" API as part of the Google Chrome browser distribution and will no longer be available as a direct download from Adobe. Adobe will continue to provide security updates to non-Pepper distributions of Flash Player 11.2 on Linux for five years from its release.
Flash Player will continue to support browsers using non-"Pepper" plug-in APIs on platforms other than Linux.
Adobe will be providing a debug player implementation of the Flash Player browser plug-in on Linux, and will update this document once there are more details on how it will be distributed.
The full release can be seen here: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html

Converting a 1080p 23.976 fps project to 720p60 for broadcast

How do you convert a 23.976 progressive frame rate into a 59.94 progressive frame rate? Is there an after effects pulldown option that is not intended for interlaced 29.97 fps, but for progressive HD formats like 720p60?

Hi Jim,
thanks for the info thats great ! the footage is just vision and wont matter if its slower which is good, i was concerned about any NTSC / PAL issues with the 25p stuff - but would i be correct in saying that as these files are raw and from the Epic / Scarlet that they are not either NTSC or PAL until they are outputted that way in post? Unlike say a a Canon 5D where you assign either NTSC or PAL within the camera?
cheers,
Tim

Lumia 800 and 23.976 FPS MP4 - Playback Issue

Quite lately, I have been wondering, if I should bring up this issue or not. Thought, what the hell - lets pen it down anyway.
So here's the deal, I have a lot of 720P DTS/DD HD movies which I generally re-encode to H.264 lower bit rates (1500 to 2000 kbps) and Audio to AAC and finally MUX them in MP4 (sounds terrible right !). The resultant file plays fine on VLC, HOWEVER, its terribly laggy/jerky on Lumia 800.
After a lot of hit and trial, I found a workaround though : Mux the H.264 Video stream @ 25 fps and Speed up the Audio from 23.976 to 25. Now the movie playback on Lumia is tolerable but not that smooth.
My N8 can play 23.976 Movies just fine. Now the Question - Why is Lumia 800 not able to playback the most widely used 23.976 framerate encoded movies and why I have to increase the FPS (to 25) in order to achive a decent playback.
PS: Movies which are @ 30 fps has absolutely brilliant playback on Lumia, though. But unfortunately, we cannot speedup 23.976 to 30, coz speeding up the Audio to 30 framerate makes the audio sound terrible and cartoonish.
EDIT : Let's make it more clear. The culprit is not 720p. I even tried resizing the video to 800x450 (Progressive) and keeping the original framerate to 23.976.The playback is still noticeably jerky. So the culprit is definitely the framerate.
Cheers !!

@ noenid : Hey buddy... Still stuck with the playback issue.. I realized that long back and am glad that I finally gave up on Nokia. Few weeks back I just bought Sony Xperia Z. Now that's what a "smartphone" should be... Its almost impossible to find something that the "Z DOESN'T DO"...
Maybe Nokia can convince Microsoft to re-design the Windows Phone OS and bring it at part with other OS. I really don't know why Microsoft chose to go the "Apple Way"... They may say "Security" >> to which I say "**bleep**"....
And why do I say **bleep** ?? Depite all the security and locked OS API's, I still don't see any substantial acceptance of Windows Phone OS in Business community... Android on the other hand, was highly criticized for being "vulnerable" >> But look around man... Almost every banking / IT / Financial Sector have their apps on it.. I really don't want Windows Phone OS to roll-over and die...
As they say: You can fool me once, but not twice...

Why there's a lenght difference between 24fps and 23,976 fps timelines with the same clip?

I was working on a 23,976fps project and I've tried to import a short animated sequence of 44 tiff frames in my timeline in my Premiere CS5.
I've imported the sequence, interpreted the footage to 23,976fps (as it was rendered in AE) to check it before sending it to a finish house.
First issue. Even if I set the framerate to 23,976, Premiere CS5 shows me 23,98 on interpret footage window. I've assumed it as a rounded number.
When I drag the clip to my 23,976 sequence, the clip shows as 43(!) frames length on info panel. It misses one frame. Putting the sequence over the original video, It really misses a frame.
I decided to make a test. And placed the same clip, interpreted the same way on a 24fps sequence, and the clip shows as 44 frames length on info panel.
How can, the same clip, shows different amount of frames (I'm not talking about time, but simply raw frames), on different timelines? It does not make any sense! If my sequence has 44 frames, It should show as 44 frames independent of the timeline I've imported it. Am I Right?
Just for test, I´ve imported the same sequence on AE, and in it shows as 44 frames on a 23,976 timeline. How can I trust Premiere frame interpreting this way?
Just one more thing. The scene used as base for the AE animation, has 44 frames, and it was measured and cut from a 30s film on the same premiere that is having this weird behavior.
Can anyone explain to me what Just have happened? It´s driving me Crazy!
Thanks in Advance
Mauricio Mendes

There's a long and storied history behind the concept of a drop frame tmecode. It traces its origin to early color TV in the USA, and was a way to get rid of artifacting that was visible on B&W TVs when watching the color signal (color subcarrier).
Basically, by having your intermediate timebase set wrong, you were having PPro drop a frame. That's why you saw the mismatch in frame numbers.

23,976 FPS / 24p

Hi,
I am using my Mac Mini on a Panasonic plasma (1280/720) it looks great. But when I watch a movie with a frame rate of 23,976 / 24p There is some judder. The TV is 24p compatible.
So my question is: How to enable the 23,976/24p frame rate? Now i only have the option between 50/60Hz
Thanks in advance.

Oxi wrote:
Yea,
I tried those two apps, but every time I alter the settings my display goes black. Its pretty hard to get the right settings, and I don't seem to find the standard settings for 1280x720/24p anywhere on the net. Do you know where to find them?
I have seen reports from people who have got 1920x1080/24p working thanks to SwitchResX but as you say it is hard work.
Have a look at this thread for some tips.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=751713
One important tip is that it is important to use 23.976 rather than 24.000. While many people call it simply 24p for simplicity it is actually 23.976 and if you use 24.000 it will result in a judder every approximately 41 seconds.

DVD studio pro 4.0.2 incapable of creating 24p (23.976 fps) DVDs?

Hey fellows I am running the same thread in the compressor forum maybe somebody here has run into the same trouble before.
I'm trying to create a 24pDVD witch used to be easy with older versions of DVD SP.
Now it creates nasty tracks with roughly every 4th frame doubled!
There is a lenghty description of the problems involved with 23,976 content at
http://homepage.mac.com/dvdsphelper/PDF/MPEG%20Telecine.pdf
The cool thing used to be that you did not have to jump through any hoops anymore with the combination of compressor and DVD SP
It seemes wer'e back to square 1 with DVD SP 4 and compressor 2
Paul
PS this is the same issue as
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=253173&tstart=0

It may be worth getting the lend of an external drive to eliminate your hardware .. can you write DVD's data with any other software such as Toast or even using the OS to backup data to a DVD drive. How old are the blanks ..I once had a faulty batch of 100 a while back and it turned out they had been in the store for two years ..With that in mind try a new one not out of that batch .. All of this may be of no help but it is typical of the things I would try to attempt to narrow the field of suspects down a bit.
Jim
jimkells.com

Is it true that JRE5 not supported on Win NT?

I have read on theweb that JRE5 was not supported under Win NT. Even noticed lots of issues with JRE5 on NT, especially the JFileChooser.
Where can I find proof that SUN is supporting JRE5 on NT?
Regards,
Francois

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/system-configurations.html

True 23.976 fps support?

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