True Stereo Tracks

Hello,
I have imported a live recording for editing as a split stereo file. I've finished editing and now need to bounce while still preserving the stereo image. I've tried this but I'm told the bounced track's L +R files are 2 identical files so I've somehow lost the stereo image while bouncing. I have "force record and convert interleaved into split stereo files" checked. Universal track mode is not checked.
Is there something I'm missing? Any help would be very very appreciated.
Nicky

Hi Jim,
Just tried that and it seems to work! Is that really all I was missing? Can't quite understand it. I thought if I bounced as a split file it would split L, R as I see in the arrange window. No mention of panning in manual (as far as I can see). But if that's the answer I'm happy. Been at this for hours.
Thanks Jim,
Nicky

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