Trying to "edit to tape"

I am trying to use the edit to tape feature so that I can put a certain timecode on the tpe I'm printing out to. ... I am having issues with it ... I black the tape using the edit to tape feature and then try puting in the timecode that i want my video to start at and FCP will not let me drop in the sequence to the edit to tape window.
I am using a panasonic DVCpro HD deck (my video is 1080i)
nd I am trying to go through a blackmagic decklink
please help! I need to be able to start picture at a certain TC on the tape
Thanks!

I ran into the same issue printing masters of our TV shows. The Outdoor Channel required the show to start at 01:00:00;00. We tried every way possible to get the TC through FireWire to the deck until I came across a blurb in the FCP user manual that says FireWire cannot output TC. You must have another type of deck control, like RS-422. We ended up using an old deck that was laying around to black 5 minutes of TC, then used edit to tape to do an assemble edit starting at the correct TC.
If that's not an option for you, I did run across this thread while searching for an answer:
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/974059#974075
I didn't try it, but its suppose to work!

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Jeremy,
Wish I could offer more help other than to say Blackmagic is usually pretty quick with a fix once they identify there is a problem. We're in Sydney, and had some problems with dropped frames a couple of years ago, and they did some very quick testing and realised that they hadn't tested there new drivers with Batch digitise - point is, they issued a fix (updated driver) extremely quickly.
Go through your supplier and see if you can get their ear, especially if you can identify the problem happening consistently.
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Export from fcp a QT movie, current settings, self-contained. Use Anamorphicizer (http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Video/Anamorphicizer.shtml) to make imovie recognise it as 16:9. Then import that file to idvd.
Or you can drop your 16:9 sequence into a new 4:3 sequence to letterbox it, then you can do the export as above but skip the anamorphicizer step.
It's better to use compressor on the original 16:9 sequence and then use dvdsp to author, but if you've never used dvdsp it's a big program to get your head round.
The export can be done in two ways;
1. Export from fcp using 'export using compressor'.
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3. Export a QT movie and import it direct into DVDSP.
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Open dvdsp and create your opening menu and a video track, import the movie file, add it to the video track, and then add the audio to the track as well. Then add any chapter submenus you may want.

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Once again hmmmm.....
I set all my setting for the DVCAM deck to use firewire and all the FCp settings for firewire. Even this ws not working! So I then repatched the video using the components in and hey presto its all works.
It seems I am using the firewire to control the deck but the AJA Kona to output the actual video signal, eventhough no setting should be using the Kona - only direct firewire to firewire! Is this the opposite to what you said patrick? It all just seems so random really, but I guess it has something to do with the Kona and how thats controlling output... not sure.
Just glad to be back up and running, although I have heard that the problem you suggest re frame accuracy may become an issue, but I read that it only usually has an effect on long programs.
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Press the "TC" menu button (should be right below the home button) and make sure the settings are INT-L and REGEN. Sorry I can't be more precise, I'm not at work now and this is from memory. Most of our HDW-F500s are in the garbage and we're using SRW5500s, but the TC menu isn't going to change that much between models.

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sounds like you are not getting audio when you do an "Insert" edit ... bet if you do an "Assemble" edit from the Edit To Tape (ETT) window it will work (like Print To Video)
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does anyone know if this deck allows edit to tape through firewire? Does the 1200 deck do this as well?

I may disagree with that answer. I am currently trying to "Edit to Tape" with a 1400 and not having much luck.
Here's the way I've got it set up and the frustrating results.
The 1400 is connected via firewire 400(on it's own bus, I have an internal raid and additional drives on another firewire card) and I have control of the deck via 422. I am able to view footage thru the deck and control the deck in Edit to Tape but as soon as I go to assemble edit or insert edit to tape the firewire connection is lost. (it blinks on the deck) I was able to strip a tape with correct timecode but not able to lay any footage down.
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Having trouble with audio edit to tape, print to video ok

Hi all, please go easy on me, this is my first post.
I am having difficulty getting audio on to tape via 'edit to tape'.
The hardware is blackmagic decklink extreme, feeding component video and analoge audio to a UVW-1800P.
I can do a print to video on a crash record and the audio works that way, but edit to tape does not.
I have tried both deck link and built in audio in the audio settings and the FCP a/v settings, seperate and ganged output settings, I have set the insert settings to 2 channel Sony, reloaded the decklink drivers.
The irritating thing is the audio is there whilst cutting, but as soon as I try edit to tape there is complete silence. The important thing is that it worked a few weeks back but does not now, it must be a setting?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I had this same problem and this resolved it for me:
-Go to your "Settings" icon and click on the "General" tab.
-About 2/3 way down the page you will see "Use side switch to:" - make sure "mute" is checked rather than "lock rotation."
-Then make sure the side switch, located next to the volume toggle switch on the side of your ipad, is moved to the right (no red dot showing).
My audio worked fine in embedded videos after I did those two things. Hope it works for you.

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This is a re-creation of a dead thread I found from June 6, 2006. This is the exact problem this other user was having.
OS 10.4.7
FCP 5.0.4
Dual G5 2.5
4.5 GB RAM
KONALH
Trying to edit to a Sony DVW-A500 (Digibeta) in Drop Frame mode.
Read Below for deets.
Problem: When working with a drop-frame sequence, and editing to tape, the program is edited to the tape with an offset of 3 seconds and 18 frames at the end of one hour.
Reproducible: Yes.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Create a drop-frame sequence.
2. Edit the sequence in step 1.
3. Perform an edit to tape with the sequence edited in step 2.
What should happen: The sequence should be edited to tape at the time it occurs in the timeline.
What does happen: The sequence is edited to the tape 3 seconds and 18 frames after it should be!
Other observations: 3 seconds and 18 frames is exactly how much time is not in an hour of drop-frame time when compared to non-drop frame time. If you drop two (2) frames in every minute that does not end in zero, the math works out to 2*54=108 dropped frames in an hour. For the sake of simple mathematics, lets say there are 30 frames in a second. So 108/30= 3 with a remainder of 18, or 3 seconds and 18 frames.
It's as if FCP is getting confused about drop and non-drop timecode when the sequence is drop-frame. If anyone can offer any insights, confirmation, or resolutions for what I am seeing, it would be appreciated.
Thanks for reading!

So is the timeline a drop frame timeline, starting at 1:00:00:00?
And then is the DBeta tape prestriped (at least enough to do an assemble edit) to start the program at 01:00:00:00?
In other words, is the FCP timeline timecode matching the Dbeta tape timecode in a 1:1 relationship before you attempt to Edit to Tape?
Thinking further: FCP can't really confuse the two timecodes, it's dependent on the operator to tell it what to do. When it outputs it's not outputing timecode or looking even really looking for timecode. It's looking for your IN point in the Edit to Tape tool.
Message was edited by: loyed256

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I've researched this in many forums and have found what could be the answer, only to try and still get NOTHING!!!
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8 cores
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Bus Speed 1.33 Ghz
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SMC Ver. 1.15f3
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*AJA KONA 3 Ver. 5.1*
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TRUST ME...I have been down this path.
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Did you ever use this deck for insert or assemble whatever signal?
Because a quick google gave me this : " ...this deck can't be used to insert edit.
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