Trying to Hookup Yamaha THR10 USB guitar amp to Garageband.

Hi !! I'm trying to hook-up a Yamaha THR10 Usb guitar amp to Garageband.
The only way to get sound, unless recording, is to put the "Input" as Electric Guitar.
I'd rather not use this as the signal then goes through a simulated Mac amp.
If I use a "Real Intstument" Input I can only hear the sound after recording not during recording.
Thank You for your help !!!

Wirebender22 wrote:
If I use a "Real Intstument" Input I can only hear the sound after recording not during recording.
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