Trying to install Tiger on G4

Just got a G4 desktop that is running 10.2, so i bought 10.4(retail dvd) to update. I have had to go back and reinstall OSX and OS10.2 because trying to install 10.4 is not working and is making my computer lock up. I have also tryed to erase the hard drive and install 10.4 by itself and the computer will not recognize that there is a disc in the machine. (Even when you hold C when you reboot). I have actually made it about 25% through installation before it cancels the install.
Also, when in 10.2, the dvd drive ejects the 10.4 disc, when trying to install it. Has anyone heard of a G4 that has trouble reading DVD's, Sorry this is so lengthy.
Thanks for any comments.Brandon
IMac PC G4 Mac OS X (10.2.x)

brandonmc01,
please do not double-post. There are several answers to this question in your other thread: Problems with Tiger Install

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Just got back from the Apple store and their solution to the iPhoto issue agreed with Brie Fly's post of:
Move the two recent rebuild attempts from Pictures to the trash. Temporarily move your original iPhoto Library folder to the desktop. Start iPhoto and choose "Create New..." from the dialog. Quit iPhoto.
Drag the iPhoto Library folder from the desktop, and drop it inside the newly created iPhoto Library folder in Pictures (put it inside; don't replace).
Now start iPhoto again while holding the shift+option keys to try another rebuild.
The Genius folks at the Apple store suggested that I also Archive and Install to see if I have a corrupt user file. I decided to back up my user first and this is where I got....
Dragged user to desktop icon of external drive, while it was "preparing to copy" it stopped with the message:
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Wow, has this stumped the experts?

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I'm flustered and out of ideas. Anything I'm missing?
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Hi Jasurda,
first check if you have the most recent firmware installed: Mac OS X: Chart of Available Firmware Updates
Thne check your optical drive. Not all B&Ws shipped with Combo drives, in fact most configurations shipped with CD-drives only. You can get a CD version of Tiger here: Media Exchange Program

Trying to install Tiger on 17" flat screen imac 800mhz. PLEASE HELP!!

I posted on this board a few days ago about installing tiger on my 17” imac G4 800 mhz Flat Panel.
My computer is running well and with no problems.
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Can't you borrow a friend's external drive ?
You could use mine but I live a bit far away (10 hours flight)... unfortunately for you ...
If you have important data on your drive you should anyway consider such an external hard drive for easy, safe and fast backup ! Prices droped significantly and a low capacity (120 gig) external firewire drive shouldn't cost over $100.-- (unlike a computer, they easely fit in a safe when you are away for a long period...)
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Carly, welcome to Apple Discussions.
Look at this link. Mac OS X: Changing or resetting an account password
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106156
 Cheers, Tom

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1: If near a Apple Store or Authorized Repair, take it to then for a free evaluation, it might have other hardware problems now that it would be a waste of effort even continuing.
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Maximum Memory
3.0 GB (Actual) 2.0 GB (Apple)
Memory Slots
2 - 200-pin PC2-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 SO-DIMM
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I've had people trying to help me with this over at macosx.com, and so far no luck. Maybe you guys can figure this one out.
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Hi TMM,
The Tiger DVD is the black boxed retail universal version. It's not a grey system-specific version. (However, the Yikes will boot from a grey system-specific DVD for my TiBook. Go figure).
I knew for OS X I didn't need a firmware upgrade, but someone suggested that maybe there could be an older upgrade (this computer came with OS 8.6). I didn't find anything like that.
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I just ran out yesterday and got a new battery to see if that would help. Reset PMU and PRAM again after it was installed, no difference.
I'm pretty familiar with the installation instructions, but I've gone back over them just in case. There's no mention of anything like this. Like I said before, this seems to have stumped the folks over at macosx.com, too. I'm beginning to think there's some weird little quirk in this particular machine.
Thanks for trying, though!
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