Trying to open Trash from Dock in 10.4.9 "spinballs" finder / relaunch

Hi;
I installed 10.4 Tiger and updated with Software update on two machines from the Family pak dvd.
I than ran Combo 10.4.9 on one to fix a spotlight problem.
On both machines, clicking on Trash in the dock puts the finder into an endless spinball that requires a relaunch.
I tried renaming .Trash in my ~ folder and a new .Trash was created on reboot. It still spinball's finder.
Any suggestions? I own the trash from ls -la
thanks
Jim

Curiouser and curiouser.
OK, so the tactic i decided upon: renaming both .Trashes and Trash on each volume, resetting the permissions/invisiablity, checking that i really wanted to trash the stuff (i'm one of those "store in the trash" kinda person) and get back to normal.
One great big help:
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20040519001916749
Article on Invisiable files; i used the /Developer/Tools/SetFile -a v to make the folders visable once i mv'ed them to new names.
I also, from finder, reset the ownership permission to me and did all enclosed folders. It's not perfect (there still seems to be nested invisible things; walk the directory tree in terminal and do a lot of "ls -al | more " commands to walk around and look if there's more there.)
When i did the above to my external hard drive, bing! my trash worked again.
Jim

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