Trying to sum the antenna issue up

Is there an attenuation issue: Yes
Is it hardware: Yes
Do other phones do it: Yes
Why does it seem worse on the iPhone 4: Because they put the weak spot where you naturally grip the phone.
Does covering up the weak spot fix the issue: Yes
When does the issue manifest itself: When the signal is weak
Does covering up the weak spot solve the problem: Yes
How good is the antenna when the weak spot is covered: As good as or better than almost any other phone on the market
How about the rest of its functionality: Best on the market. Just ask Consumer Reports.
I'm keeping mine for the following reasons:
Absent the antenna problem, it is simply a great device
I always cover my phones. In the case of the iPhone, the bumper improves the grip and makes it less likely to slip out of your hand anyway.
With the bumper, I get service in places that I've never had service before. So for me, the antenna is a net plus.
If you are outraged about having to put a free case on the phone, a position I understand, don't get one. Android based devices are great phones too. Life is too short to vent your rage when there are good solutions to the problem.

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My feedback on the antenna issue

I suggest Apple do one of these things:
1) Sell the phones with a bumper already installed on the phone. They'll have to change the packaging for this to fit the bumper, but it will make the bumper a part of the whole phone package and design. If you remove the bumper and experience the antenna issue, Apple can then say "well then don't remove it, akin to the "it hurts when I do this" doctor analogy.
For users who've already bought the phone, either an Apple store credit equal to the price of a bumper, receive 1 free bumper by going to the Apple store or mail 1 free bumper to each person who purchased an iPhone 4.
Commercials should be changed to show the user using the bumper whenever they make calls. If using the phone on wifi without a bumper, include a disclaimer at the bottom of the ad that states that the cellular connection requires usage of a bumper.
2) Apply a coating to the steel rim which minimizes the amount of attenuation to an amount on par with attenuation other smartphones experience when held the same way. People buying new iPhone 4s will no longer see the issue. People who've already bought an iPhone 4 can return their phone and receive a brand new phone that has the coating applied, along with assistance to copy the contents of their old phone to the new one. Old phones can then have the coating applied and sold as refurbished phones, or used for parts.
Note that none of this requires people who are happy with their phones to return them or even go pick up their bumper.
This is simply my own feedback regarding the issue of the abnormal amount of signal attenuation. If you have feedback on the issue, whether it be positive or negative, feel free to post as well, but direct the feedback at apple, not me.

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The ANTENNA issue

Just finished "listening" to the Steve Job presentation. The fact that only 0.55% of the people called Apple support does not really reflect the fact that the phone DOES HAVE A REAL ISSUE (quite worse than the 3GS and other phones that I see at the same time at the Iphone 4.
Many, like myself, don't bother writing or calling Apple support because we always get a "song and dance" on almost any complaint issue. Given the fact that this antenna issue is so invasive for, I would guess, 90%+ of the iphoine 4 users out there, another phone call is just another phoine call.
I would suggest that Apple DOES know (and maybe always knew) there is a real issue with the antenna. Now it's up to them to fix it and make it good for Apple supporters or many will find out that the Google Droid phones are quite good!

Thank you for your opinion. Now post it where it will do some good: http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

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if i record w/out monitoring and playback on i-tunes. sounds great. monitoring recording thru headphones gets a crackling sound that has a bit of delay or reverb. i use tascam us-122mkII interface. help!

if i record w/out monitoring and playback on i-tunes. sounds great. monitoring recording thru headphones gets a crackling sound that has a bit of delay or reverb. i use tascam us-122mkII interface. help!

My take on the iPhone antenna issue

I'll start off by saying I own a 3GS, don't own a 4, have seen one a friend has and know a few friends that have them.
I've had other products (like a knife) that have an optional guard. You can leave it off and "be careful" or you can put it on and have the item be somewhat less attractive. This is my personal take on Apple's reasoning.
You definitely would not want to increase the size of the iPhone by building in a case, because a third part might make a case that, say, was also a checkbook case. So it makes sense for the iPhone to be bare bones, and you have the option of adding a case if you want one.
The mistake, as I see it, was in Apple not including a bumper with the iPhone, +and having the bumper already be on the iPhone when you took it out of the box.+
Had they done this, IMO there would have been no complaints at all.
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I agree the bumpers should have been free and included.
The antenna issue though is very subjective. Steve is right. I have seen every phone i have owned drop bar level depending on how i hold it. This one is more pronounced because we can touch the antenna, usually a radio no no. The idea of the external antenna integrated with the case is quite cool. I use my iP4 in a very fringe area and haven't had it drop a call due to lost signal. In fact it is better than my 3G i replaced. It is better with the bumper. So what happened? Apple took a risk and designed something new. Then Steve hyped it up into the stratosphere. Raised expectation of perfection. It isn't perfect and all the nay sayers had something quite real to pick on. Now here we are.
This phone is an amazing device. Very fast an powerful and the camera is really good. It has a few color issues but nothing that can't be fixed in any photo editor. The result is great photos capture with a cell phone. The video is great as is the recorded sound. Quite usable.
So it has a few quirks, well worth all the positives in my opinion.

Antenna Issue, bumpers free for everyone until recall or software solution

I have mine since yesterday, the antenna issue is unacceptable. I'm thinking about returning it but I changed telephone operator and it won't be simple to rollback the process.
I think, no I demand that, the bumpers should be free for everyone who bought an iPhone 4, until a patch or hardware solution is offered.
An official communication about the issue is also required before christmas.

http://valleywag.gawker.com/5574781/an-iphone-class-action-suit-is-in-the-works

Will Apple change my iPhone 4 if I'm having problems with the antenna?

I mean, maybe the latest units don't have this problems. I bought it in February and I've been using it with a bumper. Now I want to use without the bumper, but the antenna issue is very noticeable.. I loose calls, Internet works really slow..
Maybe someone of you had this problem and Apple gave you a new unit witohut this problem.
Thanks in advanced!

If Apple determines the iphone to be defective, then they will replace if it is inside the warranty period. No one here can tell you what Apple will determine.
It sounds to me like your iphone is not defective. Newer iphones are no different than older ones. Not sure that that would make any difference.
You can make an appointment at the genius bar and see what they say if you like.

Will Iphone 4 8gb have antenna issue sorted?

Hi ,
I am hoping some one in this forum might get a inside information on the new Apple iphone 4 8gb which will be released on 14 oct with new ios 5 but no SIRI.
Now I had a bad experience with the Iphone 4 white which I bought in June 2011 and returned back after suffering a lot of call drop issue because of antenna on the phone.
I dont want to be in the same situation again where I buy the iphone 4 8gb and realize that the antenna issue still exists.
SO MY QUESTION TO APPLE IS:
IS THE ANTENNA GATE ISSUE SORTED OUT ON THE IPHONE 4 8GB ?
Thank you

Yes, I am talking about the GSM model. Cause a friend of mine had bought this model iphone 8gb a year back when Iphone was launched. But it was soon stopped. So he has got the iphone 8gb model and even he had issues with the antenna on it.
Now I am just wondering if Apple has just launched the model back again without any changes to the antenna.
I want to just use the 8gb one if it doesnt have any issues, till the time iphone 5 gets launched.
I am waiting for the prices to be released tomorrow in UK. just to see what the contracts turn out to be.
Why to buy the new Iphone 4s if that looks exactly same as the Iphone 4. Features matter, but iphone 5 is
what I wanted to buy.

Apple Deleted My Post About Antenna Issue

So Apple does not like me posting about the antenna issues in their support form. Sorry Apple you have lost me as a customer and all the business I bring to you, which is significant. Moving to Linux and Google Android.
Just so you know Apple you cannot teach arrogance, you either have it or you do not. And you my former friend have a big case of arrogance! Hope you read this.

Michael710 wrote:
So Apple does not like me posting about the antenna issues in their support form. Sorry Apple you have lost me as a customer and all the business I bring to you, which is significant. Moving to Linux and Google Android.
Just so you know Apple you cannot teach arrogance, you either have it or you do not. And you my former friend have a big case of arrogance! Hope you read this.
Apple DOES read these boards, carefully as a matter of fact- contrary to some posters. I'm with you. Apple has lost me. I'm returning my phone at the end of the 30-day period hoping for a recall in the interim.

Trying to sum up the QHD/scaling problems and solutions

Hello all,
For a while I've been thinking about buying the Yoga2 -pro, yet I was (and am) worried about the high resolution making everything too small to work with.
Since there are so many posts (some with conflicting stories) in this forum regarding this issue, I'm trying to sum up where things stand at the moment, especially as for what solutions are there at the moment and how do they work.
My uses are very simple, I surf the web allot using chrome, I read many pdf files using PDF exchange viewer and zotero as a file manager, I also use office 2010/13, dropbox, and also two research related software called atas.ti and SPSS.
From what I've been reading there are two solutions -
1. Using windows 8.1 new scaling option. This works for most programs but not for all.
My questions are: how bad is it when a progrma does not scale right. Is it still possible to use it ?
If anyone uses one of the programs mentioned above and can tell me how do they handle the highdpi setting It  would be great.
2. I've seen some posts about people how set their screen resolution to a lower resolution, (usually regular HD) then the native one.
Is that works well as if the screen was a regular hd screen, or does it create different problems ? (if not that might be the solution for me, as I really don't care much for qhd)
Thanks

gshani wrote:
Hello all,
For a while I've been thinking about buying the Yoga2 -pro, yet I was (and am) worried about the high resolution making everything too small to work with.
Since there are so many posts (some with conflicting stories) in this forum regarding this issue, I'm trying to sum up where things stand at the moment, especially as for what solutions are there at the moment and how do they work.
My uses are very simple, I surf the web allot using chrome, I read many pdf files using PDF exchange viewer and zotero as a file manager, I also use office 2010/13, dropbox, and also two research related software called atas.ti and SPSS.
From what I've been reading there are two solutions -
1. Using windows 8.1 new scaling option. This works for most programs but not for all.
My questions are: how bad is it when a progrma does not scale right. Is it still possible to use it ?
If anyone uses one of the programs mentioned above and can tell me how do they handle the highdpi setting It  would be great.
2. I've seen some posts about people how set their screen resolution to a lower resolution, (usually regular HD) then the native one.
Is that works well as if the screen was a regular hd screen, or does it create different problems ? (if not that might be the solution for me, as I really don't care much for qhd)
Thanks
I'm running 3200x1800 at 185% Windows scaling, and everything looks perfect.
Really, the screen is so good and sharp that going down from this resolution to 1920x1080 feels almost like going down from 1920x1080 to 1366x768.
There are only very few apps that don't scale properly and look tiny. Adobe's apps such as Photoshop, Viber, Dropbox, FastStone Viewer. Viber anyway has modern app, which works and behaves perfect.
If you want to keep your laptop for more than a year then I'd say it's well worth to go for a higher resolution. This trend is just accelerating.
But, even right now, practically all everyday desktop apps work perfectly at regular 3200x1800 resolution, with Windows scaling that you can choose, 200% being a default one.
When resolution is changed to 1920x1080 the resolution doesn't look at all that bad as I expected. In fact, it looks pretty decent. Maybe not as sharp as native 1920x1080 display, but pretty close. I bet most people would hardly notice a difference...
Normally, LCD displays look all blurry if set to anything else than their native resolution. But Yoga 2 Pro has pentile display, which doesn't have full 3 RGB subpixels for each pixel but more like 2 and half, and so it actually scales better and sharper when set to non-native resolution.
Additionally, the very high native resolution makes everything look better at non-native resolution, such as 1920x1080.
Bottom end - there's really no need, if at all, to run any other resolution than native 3200x1800. You just adjust Windows scaling to what you like and enjoy the super sharp screen.
I've read about this issue before I bought my Y2P, and was concerned a bit, but now that I have it and use it I see there's no reason for any worry.

I am trying to install MasterCollection_CS6_LS16. When I click the install file I get this error message: We've encountered the following issues. Installation on case-sensitive volumes is not supported. Please choose a different volume for installation.

I am trying to install MasterCollection_CS6_LS16. When I double click the install file I get this error message: We've encountered the following issues. Installation on case-sensitive volumes is not supported. Please choose a different volume for installation. What does that mean? How should I proceed?

Hey iraravitz,
Could you please let me know what version of OS are working on.
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So, please try installing on a drive that has been formatted with a supported file system.
You might refer the KB doc link mentioned below for the same:
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Let me know if this helps.
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Lightroom 4 crashes when trying to open the slideshow module. I spent over three hours with both Adobe and Apple tech support and we know it is a permission issue but have not been able to get it solved. It started with the last upgrade to 10.8

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Back up all data.
This procedure will unlock all your user files (not system files) and reset their ownership and access-control lists to the default. If you've set special values for those attributes on any of your files, they will be reverted. In that case, either stop here, or be prepared to recreate the settings if necessary. Do so only after verifying that those settings didn't cause the problem. If none of this is meaningful to you, you don't need to worry about it.
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If you have more than one user account, and the one in question is not an administrator account, then temporarily promote it to administrator status in the Users & Groups preference pane. To do that, unlock the preference pane using the credentials of an administrator, check the box marked Allow user to administer this computer, then reboot. You can demote the problem account back to standard status when this step has been completed.
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HT204409 I have a new iphone 5 and it won't connect to a wireless router that my old iphone 3GS would pick up. Is there a compatibility issue with some routers or is the antenna weaker in the new iphone 5?

I have a new iphone 5 and I can't pick up a wireless router that I could use with my old iphone 3GS. Is there an issue with the new iphone and is the antenna weaker than the 3GS?

Please read this :
https://discussions.apple.com/message/20053332?ac_cid=tw123456#20053332
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Re: Anyone still having IOS 6 wifi issues?
created by mpa9366 in Using iPad - View the full discussion
Having done a lot of reading today and having found a very good online tablet magazine (will post link tomorrow) there seems to be a few tech bods onto the problem.
The magazine I was reading identified wifi problems within hours of the ios 6 release and have been analysing since then with almost daily updates - the story seems to be:
The apple authenthication transmission is normal, it should slip through event prior to a full handshake with the host network being completed - however if not authenthicated then apple will not permit the device to connect (kills the connection) this is designed to protect apple from counterfeiting. So thats problem 1 if you dont receive a token from apple.
Problem 2 is that ios 6 only supports ipv6 (the new ip protocol) whereas outside silicon valley a large proportion of routers modems etc are still ipv4 protocol.
So youre locked into ipv6 in a world where ipv4 devices are everywhere and apple have not allowed for the ability to handle both protocols. This is like GM telling you your car requires an upgrade, everything will improve etc and as part of the upgrade fits a fuel cell motor and stays silent when their upgraded vehicles are simply parked up because they cannot get fuel.
A very basic expectation would have been dual protocol handling - we know the HW supports ipv4 as all wad fine on ios5.
So its going to be hit and miss with networks - more hit than miss in techy areas like silicon valley, but more miss in places like where I am - a small town in rural Switzerland.
Only apple can fix this with a patch to enable ipv4 protocol handling.
There you go. you just need to buy a new router, I'm sure Apple has one for sale, cause it's not there fault for sure.
Wonder why people start to migrate to other devices ?

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Have you confirmed that you successfull purged iTunes Match by also looking on an iOS device? If so, keep in mind that Apple's servers may be experiencing a heavy load right now. They just added about 19 countries to the service and I've read a few accounts this morning that suggests all's not running perfectly right now.

Getting S.M.A.R.T. when trying to install Mountain lion. Hard drive works pretty well. I understand that many users have been facing the same issue. Has apple patched it yet?

I'm getting S.M.A.R.T. error when trying to install Mountain lion. Hard drive works pretty well despite the Failing status. I understand that many users have been facing the same issue. My hard drive was/is working perfectly. Has Apple patched it yet?
Has someone found a solution which is not replacing the hard drive which works just fine? Or Is anyone aware of a procedure that can force the installation despite the S.M.A.R.T error? Below details of my hard drive
Thanks
ST31******ASQ:
Capacity:          1 TB (1,000,204,886,016 bytes)
Model:          ST31000528ASQ
Revision:          AP24
Serial Number:                      6V***5JR
Native Command Queuing:          Yes
Queue Depth:          32
Removable Media:          No
Detachable Drive:          No
BSD Name:          disk0
Rotational Rate:          7200
Medium Type:          Rotational
Partition Map Type:          GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status:          Failing
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If you haven't done so, run Disk Utility /Applications/Utilities
to run a live verification.
The drive may be ok at the moment, but that's not to say the drive may fail at anytime.
Hopefully you have all your important data backed up just in case.

Trying to sum the antenna issue up

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