TS3408 Safari, loading too slow or partially only

Its becoming very frustrating, since it's ALL the time, that either it's only a partial loading of the page.
Also I've noticed that even when I type, the text is delayed on the screen.
Anyone experiencing the same?
Or any suggestions on how to fix it??
Thanks!!

Make sure you have the latest version of the operating system. I had the same miss you once I upgraded to Mac OS XSafari work like a charm.

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