TS440 raid setup question

Hello all,
I installed an ssd with windows 8 into one of the sata ports in my mobo and the sata mode in bios is in ahci mode. i plugged one 4tb internal drive into one of the drive bays(drive bay 0). Everything is working fine. The 4tb shows up in my computer as does the ssd (boot)
The 440 comes with a pci raid card. i plugged in 3 1tb drives into the drive bays 5,6,7. I got into the raid configuration bios screen and set up my 3 1tb drives in raid 0 virtual drive. i initialized it and it seems okay. when i boot up everything is fine but the virtual drive doesn't show up.
Do i have to set the sata mode to raid in bios? Do i have to reinstall windows or could i just copy the current image to the ssd again? thanks

Phillip,
No, that's not how "mirroring" works. Really, there's no good way to do exactly what you want, although there are a few ways to go about "syncing" the files on multiple drives. Perhaps the best method would be to use the built-in command line utility "rsync," but even that will require some work on your part (it will never be as easy as you'd like).
Each computer really needs its own system, and with the rapid changes to Apple hardware that are currently the norm, these systems are likely to contain different drivers and OS build (my current MBP, for example, cannot be booted from a retail Leopard install disk, but an earlier one can). Your HOME folder, however, should be entirely "portable" between those installed systems.
That's what you would deal with if you used rsync; your HOME folder. It is a relatively easy task to sync the HOME folder on one computer with the that from the other, but it must be performed in the opposite direction at some later time (after you come home from traveling). Inevitably, you'll skip the syncing for some period of time after returning home and using the desktop. It is at this point that things can begin to "go south," and where it can get complicated. It's still not impossible with something as powerful as rsync, but the skill level required quickly goes up.
In the end, it might be much better to rely on MobileMe. After all, that's just what it is for. With MobileMe, the majority of your important things will be synced across multiple computers and devices automatically; things like email, bookmarks, contacts, calendars, etc., etc. (look at your MobileMe preferences to see the complete list of items you can sync). Everything else you can probably handle manually, without much trouble. In this regard, just storing a few types of data on an external hard drive would go a long way toward making the job easier.
Scott

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