TU score drop because of balance increase

Buildabetterlife15 wrote:
Thanks for the reply Norman. That's the thing. I did open the two cap1 cards but the statements haven't broke for those. Also the FH fresh start hasn't printed a statement either. I actually paid off the FP CO last month. I'm thinking my total should've went down? Who knows. Since I've had myfico TU has updated twice and I've applied for the cap1 QS 1 and paid the FP card off..oh yeah...and paid all my other normal bills. I'm having little faith on the info passed along from TU here.TU alerts do seem to be a bit buggy lately, I think others have reported wierdness as well. Hopefully they will get it worked out.

Thanks for the reply Norman. That's the thing. I did open the two cap1 cards but the statements haven't broke for those. Also the FH fresh start hasn't printed a statement either. I actually paid off the FP CO last month. I'm thinking my total should've went down? Who knows. Since I've had myfico TU has updated twice and I've applied for the cap1 QS 1 and paid the FP card off..oh yeah...and paid all my other normal bills. I'm having little faith on the info passed along from TU here.

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I just found out my credit score dropped because Verizon One bill put me through collections for my final bill that I never received and after almost two hours on the phone transferred back and forth they still could not confirm if I owe money or not.

After 2 hours transferred back and forth between billing, one bill, home and wireless no one could prove that I owed money. Wireless said I owed nothing and home said I had a credit for cancelling a couple days before the billing cycle but owed for wireless. After a three-way called between Home and Wireless and Wireless insisting I do not owe anything, the Home representative disconnected herself, the wireless rep promised me a call back the next day to get the other department online and to get everything resolved. No one called me back next day and the day after. Knowing this could go in circles and don't want to do anything bad to my credit, I paid the settlement amount to the collection agencies. Now I saw that my credit score got ding for an amount that Verizon couldn't prove that I owed. I should not have paid it at all. If someone from Verizon reads this message, please get back to me and get this resolved. After more than 15 years with this company, this is making me so frustrated. I liked Verizon services but at this point I am going to start looking for someone with better billing.

I called customer service, spoke to Verizon Wireless Representative but they cannot pull anything on my record. So after two transfers I asked to speak to financial services. Spoke to Ronnie Ext 5100. Representative was very rude, not listening, kept on insisting that since I paid the collection agency I cannot dispute. Said should not have paid the collection agency. Rep was over talking, not listing to me explaining my frustration of being on the phone for hours in November between Verizon OneBill, Home and Wireless and got nothing resolved, and that's why I paid. Said there's nothing she can do except to put a note to Credit Bureau that the account is paid in full. I asked to talk to a supervisor or a manager and she said no one can do anything else. I insisted and she asked me to leave a phone number to call back. After all the calls and speaking to many reps, this is the worst. Now I am back to square one waiting for someone to call me back. And my credit score is still one hundred points lower thanks to Verizon!!!

Balance dropped, score dropped. FICO scores a mystery.

They only reason to pay for the service of credit monitoring here on myFICO is so you have some idea of where you stand when you apply for any type of credit or loan. All the information about understanding FICO scoring is all cookie cutter garbage that you can read on any other "credit monitoring" service. And the people that work for myFICO have no idea what they are talking about either. They just repeat the same cookie cutter garbage I was just mentioning. I really hope they are providing their "services" for free, because if they receive any kind of compensation, it is undeserved. My statement balance on my American Express Everyday card went from $50 to $0 and my scores dropped by 11, 12, and 17 points (Equifax, TransUnion and Experian.) I brought the statement balance back up to $50 the VERY next month. Did my scores recover the lost points I just lost a month ago? No. And I am sure all these "credit experts" will say, "something else in your report must have changed." That is code for, "I have no idea what happened, I am just as clueless as you why your score changed the way it did." The precise formula for generating your FICO score is a well guarded secret. It is the same formula used in determining battle damage to your characters in the old Sega Master System game Phantasy Star. Sometimes when attacked, your character would lose 6 health points, other times 80 health points, and even other times 3/4ths of your total health, and so on and so on. This is how FICO scoring works. The formula basically goes, OOGA BOOGA, OOGA BOOGA, this is your updated score. The only advice on this site (again which you can find on EVERY other credit monitoring service) that is worth anything is what responsible credit habits you should be practicing. Other than that, just hope for the best. Your score is a mystery, and it always will be.

Beavakos wrote:
What difference does it make if there are any negatives on my report? I lost points for doing something negative, which is bringing my balance to zero, than returning it back to its previous balance. THAT IS ALL I DID. I thought time heals all wounds when it comes to credit. Any credit missteps I might have had taken should be corrected with time. I really don't know how to make this any clearer. Nothing in my report changed except TIME. If I have two dollars in my bank account, and spend one dollar, then deposit one dollar, I should have now have TWO dollars AGAIN. ?????????????????I understand what Beavakos is saying here and we all get it. Most of us love analyzing data which is why we are here after we've already cleaned up our reports and greatly increased our scores. Again, I understand how Beavakos feels - it is said time and again that UTIL has no memory and what is lost due to UTIL will be regained - well, not always true. Looking strictly at the data two things changed on Beavakos' report: 30 days were added to age and UTIL went from something above 0% to 0%, then back again and yet Beavakos' score did not fully recoup the loss. The reason for this, I think, is very clear - we do not know as much as we think we know about FICO or any other scoring algorithm. If I lost 10 points for going from 5% UTIL down to 0% UTIL but then gained those 5 points back by raising my UTIL to 5% again then scoring algorithm's are not as complicated as they are made out to be and are thus not worth paying for. The previous scenario is simple math and if indeed it was only that I should be able to retest that hypothesis time and again and get the same exact results - not happening. That said, I do not believe that scoring is a crap shoot or something only a witch doctor can understand. It is a complicated mathematical equation that has 100's, if not 1000's, of factors all having a different weight at a different time and I believe there is no one that can determine with 100% accuracy the effect any one factor, forget about multiple factors, will have on your score. Not even the people who wrote the code would know as no one person wrote the whole code. We should probably stop getting so frustrated with how our scores react to the different changes in our reports. The reason we get upset is that we think this is some simple black and white game and it's not. It is very complicated and we will never know what we want to know to the accuracy level we want to know it. What's important is we know what hurts our score to a high degree and what helps our score to a high degree. Take care of all those things we know about and your score will go up; don't take care of those things and your score will go down. After that it is just a game we play to see how we can get to 800...

How to ask for a CC Balance increase??

Hey All!, I'm looking to get an increase to my credit card so I can actually utilize my card for intended purposes vs. having to constantly go in and pay on balances so that the credit utilization does not hurt my score. My scores just recently dropped because I had about $2000 hit my credit utilization when I was on vacation and forgot to pay before the statement hit which kind of put me over the edge to take action about it. Monthly Income $10,400Mortgage $2,000Auto Loan $420 $0 balance on revolving credit with a good pay history to which I generally never allow anything to hit the statement. I was young and dumb at one point and had everything maxed out and paid minimum payments but have been straight arrow for about 2 years. Outside of my home and auto I have zero debt. Prior to this balance credit utilization increase my scores were... Eq: 758 Trans: 791 Ex: 772 Now my scores are... Eq: 742 Trans: 776 Ex: 778 My credit card are as follows:Capital One - Limit: $3,500 - Member Date 2005American Express - $2,500 - Member Date 2015Bank Of America - $2,000 - Member Date 2006 What kind of increase should I ask for and what is the most effective way to do so? TIA!

Mossburg031 wrote:
Hey All!, I'm looking to get an increase to my credit card so I can actually utilize my card for intended purposes vs. having to constantly go in and pay on balances so that the credit utilization does not hurt my score. My scores just recently dropped because I had about $2000 hit my credit utilization when I was on vacation and forgot to pay before the statement hit which kind of put me over the edge to take action about it. Monthly Income $10,400Mortgage $2,000Auto Loan $420 $0 balance on revolving credit with a good pay history to which I generally never allow anything to hit the statement. I was young and dumb at one point and had everything maxed out and paid minimum payments but have been straight arrow for about 2 years. Outside of my home and auto I have zero debt. Prior to this balance credit utilization increase my scores were... Eq: 758 Trans: 791 Ex: 772 Now my scores are... Eq: 742 Trans: 776 Ex: 778 My credit card are as follows:Capital One - Limit: $3,500 - Member Date 2005American Express - $2,500 - Member Date 2015Bank Of America - $2,000 - Member Date 2006 What kind of increase should I ask for and what is the most effective way to do so? TIA! Cap One go to Services>More>Request Credit Line Increase, select card, answer questions Amex go to More Options>Credit Management>Increase Line of Credit put in 4 digit number, answer questions

Score Dropped 60 Points from paying off loan

I had two college loans. Nelnet - 40,000 and KeyBank - 30,000 (Default) Had a family member Pledge money into a loan for myself and I paid back Nelnet for the full amount and settled with KeyBank for 70% (around 20,000) Two months later I ran another report and my score dropped from 672 (Started at 400 from five years ago) and dropped down to 612. No way my wife and I can get a house. I knew it could drop but not 60 points! It's going to take another year to bring it back up to the 670-680 range that I really needed to make a mortgage work. My tracking the last 2 years had been great. Each score was going up each 3 months and we've put a lot into savings and everything has been great. Very depressing to hold my family back like this. I also knew I would be applying for a mortgage at this time so about 6 months ago I opened my first credit card (Capital One QuickSilver -$2,000 limit) SO I have made weekly payments (I emotionally feel better making weekly payments for some reason) and wonder if asking to increase my limit would help or hurt my score. Thanks everyone.

MrE wrote:
I had two college loans. Nelnet - 40,000 and KeyBank - 30,000 (Default) Had a family member Pledge money into a loan for myself and I paid back Nelnet for the full amount and settled with KeyBank for 70% (around 20,000) Two months later I ran another report and my score dropped from 672 (Started at 400 from five years ago) and dropped down to 612. No way my wife and I can get a house. I knew it could drop but not 60 points! It's going to take another year to bring it back up to the 670-680 range that I really needed to make a mortgage work. My tracking the last 2 years had been great. Each score was going up each 3 months and we've put a lot into savings and everything has been great. Very depressing to hold my family back like this. I also knew I would be applying for a mortgage at this time so about 6 months ago I opened my first credit card (Capital One QuickSilver -$2,000 limit) SO I have made weekly payments (I emotionally feel better making weekly payments for some reason) and wonder if asking to increase my limit would help or hurt my score. Thanks everyone. Increasing your limit will not effect your scores either way, unless the card is carrying a large balance - then it will help. First off - your revolving credit is thin with only one CC. Second - do you have any other installment loans? The drop is most likely from the defaulted loan updating and not having any installment loans. That's temporary and your scores will recover as that item ages now. Your issues are easily fixable. First step is to get a second Capital One card. You should get an immediate boost from a second card. A third card from another lender would be good as well. Maybe Discover. If you have no other installment lines, open an account with SDFCU and do a share secured loan with them for $500 @ 36 months. That will also boost your scores. If you have trouble getting a third card, you can get a secured card from SDFCU as well. Three revolving lines will force your scores up much faster than just one. If your last two years are clean, you could easily hit 680 in 3-6 months. After you get the multiple revolving accounts going, to peak your scores you want to only allow one of the cards to report a small balance of less than 10% of its limit.

Help! "Fixed" credit issues and score dropped today!

For some reason, my score dropped 13 points today. There's 5 alerts on MyFico -- but I just had a $16,000 CO deleted. I can't imagine that would make my score drop. I mistakenly paid all my CCs down to 0 before knowing this wasn't good. My disputes haven't been removed yet. LVNV promised me 3x they would remove from my CR and the alert said it's still there! I called them and they claimed they haven't reported it this month. A couple other old COs are there so I can't think why on earth it would drop 13 pts. I'm in a very tight window for FHA. I'm fine but I can't fall at all and thought my score would bump up a little.a) what can I do quickly to bump up my score just a little?b) what can I do to run a small balance on one of my CCs (because I learned 0 is bad) when it won't update until the end of the month?c) what do you do when these CA say they're going to delete several times (it's almost falling off) and they don't? We are going to underwriting soon, in August, and I'll be so upset if all my efforst resulted in a 13 pt drop. To me, it makes no sense. When a mortgage co pulled a hard inquiry it jumped 11 pts last week! !!? Advice appreciated!

You might be able to put a small amount on one of your credit cards and call them and as for them to report now, and not wait for the normal cycle. I'm not sure which cards are more likely to do it than others. I know I've read on these boards examples of people doing that.

I paid down a card to zero and my score dropped 18 points

Hi and welcome! You need to keep balances low (1-9% util) on credit cards and other revolving credit. High outstanding debt can affect a score. Too much use of credit shows you may need more that you can handle, not good. Not enough use of credit does not demonstrate that you can use credit responsibly, also not good. It is a balance - show you can manage that balance and you will be rewarded. All revolving accounts reporting a 0 balance results in a Fico score decrease. Read up, take it all in, there are many answers in the following post, after that if you need calrification and/or still have questions, ask away! http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Credit-Scoring-101-START-HERE/m-p/8169

tufa4311 wrote:
Bostonia wrote:
WOW!! i did not know that little trick, thats wy, my scores has been so slow in rising up, is becouse i paid in full before the statement cus off,and always reported 0 balance, also recently closed a CC account with zero balance, and my scores dropped a lots points, so from now one i willlet report some small balance Hooray!!! i have learned so much from this forum, and each time i log in i learn somenthingnew and beneficial for my financial life!! thank you all for the greatest financial advices!!! you guys are awesome!!! Yes, ensure that not only you let report 1-9%, but also important, only let ONE of your credit lines report anything at all. No matter how many credit lines you have, only let one report a balance of 1-9%. You can and should rinse and repeat for your other credit lines. One billing cycle let Credit Card A report, next cycle let credit card B report. This is unnecessary and needlessly complicates things as cards seldom all report at the same time. Just pick one card and allow it to be your "reporter". By switching cards each month you can end up with periods between the cards reporting dates where either both are reporting a balance or neither is reporting a balance. That causes your scores to bounce around. So, wait until your statement cuts - when the statement is cut is when the reporting is done to the credit agencies, then before your due date pay in FULL so as not to incur any interest. Then start on your next credit line. Remember, it's not that you never want to pay in full, it's that you do not want to pay in full BEFORE the credit card reports. If you wait past the due date then you will incur interst. Also, note, you can use as many cards as you like with as high balance as you like during the billing cycle as long as when the reporting gets done you only have one line reporting 1-9%. Reporting to the credit agencies is not done daily, just once per billing cycle. If you know when your statement cuts, and you can ask them, then you know when you need to clean things up with your balances before it cuts/reports.

My past billing adress of my apple ID is the states, presently i'm in montreal Canada and im not able to change the billing address because my balance is $ 0.68, any idea how can i change it?

my past billing adress of my apple ID is the states, presently i'm in montreal Canada and im not able to change the billing address because my balance is $ 0.68, any idea how can i change it?

You can contact iTunes support and request that they remove the $0.68 from your account here:
http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/contact/
They should respond within 24 hours.

The certificate 'instance' cannot be dropped because it is bound to one or more database encryption key.

my question is the as this one on this link
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/sqlserver/en-US/55deada2-95f1-46a9-82be-c7e684a4bddb/the-certificate-certname-cannot-be-dropped-because-it-is-bound-to-one-or-more-database-encryption?forum=sqlreplication. but there is no clear answer what to
do . would anyone please help me and give me guidance?
i had create a master key and a certificate under master database. and now i want to drop these certificate and master key from this database and face with this error :sg 3716, Level 16, State 15, Line 1
The certificate 'TDECert' cannot be dropped because it is bound to one or more database encryption key .
thanks in advance

Have you enaled TDE for any user database? if yes, and you do not want to continue with having TDE encryption, then you need to run the first command by changing the dbname to that user database instead of master.
ALTER DATABASE DBName SET ENCRYPTION OFF
You can run below command to see if any database are encrypted using TDE
Select is_encrypted,* from sys.databases
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Credit Score Drop & Credit Limit Increase.

This morning I had 7 points drop from my credit score. This past month I decided to pay off a 10 year student loan early thinking it would help my credit score. I know it has helped my financial situation but has given my credit score a hit. I am thinking I got the hit because I closed the account out which significantly lowered my AAOA. I have a auto loan that I am currently paying off and the loan ends in about 2 years. Ive been going back and forth about paying off this also, but since I got the hit I just decided not to and just wait the 2 years. In my report I have 1 missed payment waiting to fall off next month, and after that I am pretty set. I have been also itching for another credit card. At the moment I only have one card which is my Barclaycard. What are your thoughts on opening up another one? I know it'll drop my score but I am thinking that I need to replace my loan with something beneficial such as another credit card. I am just not sure if that is a good thing. This morning I checked my Barclaycard statement and realized that they increased my credit limit. I started off with $1000 and they gave me a credit limit of $3500. So my question is how will this affect my credit score? I am on the road of rebuilding my credit. I started this road in the low 500's and within a few months I was able to get my score up to the low 700's with the help of this forum and advice. I would hate to see myself go backwards again. Any advice would be great.

hazeboo wrote:
This morning I had 7 points drop from my credit score. This past month I decided to pay off a 10 year student loan early thinking it would help my credit score. I know it has helped my financial situation but has given my credit score a hit. I am thinking I got the hit because I closed the account out which significantly lowered my AAOA. I have a auto loan that I am currently paying off and the loan ends in about 2 years. Ive been going back and forth about paying off this also, but since I got the hit I just decided not to and just wait the 2 years. In my report I have 1 missed payment waiting to fall off next month, and after that I am pretty set. I have been also itching for another credit card. At the moment I only have one card which is my Barclaycard. What are your thoughts on opening up another one? I know it'll drop my score but I am thinking that I need to replace my loan with something beneficial such as another credit card. I am just not sure if that is a good thing. This morning I checked my Barclaycard statement and realized that they increased my credit limit. I started off with $1000 and they gave me a credit limit of $3500. So my question is how will this affect my credit score? I am on the road of rebuilding my credit. I started this road in the low 500's and within a few months I was able to get my score up to the low 700's with the help of this forum and advice. I would hate to see myself go backwards again. Any advice would be great. Your AAOA doesnt get affected, it will still count towards your AAOA for 10 yrs from the time of closing.The credit line increase will not hurt your credit scores. If youre going to apply for another CC, i would wait until your CR repoets $0 balance/account closeed/paid as agreed. If you're score went down for paying the school loan off, it should go back up soon...doesnt make sense. When i got my two auto increases with Barclay, they HP me...maybe it changed but i would check and make sure they didnt do that. If they did, i would dispute that you didnt give them permission for auto HP increase. Worked with my wife. Anyonre?

Score dropped 100pts. Why?

First off, it is my score from Mint so I am well aware that is a FAKO. Previously my Mint score was a 798 and now it is showing as a 697. I can’t remember the last time I saw a score under 700 so FAKO or not, I am alarmed. What’s even more confusing is that my profile has had little change in the past 3 months (time since last score update). According to the very same Mint page, I have 0 missed payments, 0 derogs, 1 inquiry (had 2 with the 798) and no new accounts in the past 6 months (had 1 new account in the past 3 months at 798) My AAoA is obviously up. I have $39,000 in total limits, which is up from the last update (SP CLI), but I rarely let more than $40 in total post. So what gives? Why does a better profile (inq fell off, AAoA increase) result in a score 100 points lower? Can I chalk it up to the fact that it is a FAKO score? My Credit Karma shows no change. Ideas? Should I be alarmed?

pleiades wrote:
First off, it is my score from Mint so I am well aware that is a FAKO. Previously my Mint score was a 798 and now it is showing as a 697. I can’t remember the last time I saw a score under 700 so FAKO or not, I am alarmed. What’s even more confusing is that my profile has had little change in the past 3 months (time since last score update). According to the very same Mint page, I have 0 missed payments, 0 derogs, 1 inquiry (had 2 with the 798) and no new accounts in the past 6 months (had 1 new account in the past 3 months at 798) My AAoA is obviously up. I have $39,000 in total limits, which is up from the last update (SP CLI), but I rarely let more than $40 in total post. So what gives? Why does a better profile (inq fell off, AAoA increase) result in a score 100 points lower? Can I chalk it up to the fact that it is a FAKO score? My Credit Karma shows no change. Ideas? Should I be alarmed?I wouldn't be alarmed just yet. First of all, there has to be a reason for the huge drop. You would be the best person to answer that. Any collection that might have just showed up ? Any newly closed accounts ? Any newly opened accounts ? Any credit limit decreases ? Something has to have triggered it. First thing I would do is pull of 3 of your bureaus and see what has changed. Only than you will be able to see what has transpired. Good luck and Keep us posted !!

Re: Throughput drops dramatically when I increase the number of instances in a cluster

Thanks for the quick reply.
          Yes, we are running WLS with the performance pack.
          "Bernie Wong" <[email protected]> wrote in message
          news:[email protected]...
          > Fellow clusterers ....
          >
          > I have an EJB driver program that pumps work into a WLS cluster. For
          > scalability, I increase the number of drivers. The drivers have a big pool
          > of work to pump into the cluster.
          >
          > I noticed that with 6 (nothing special about that number) drivers, I can
          get
          > 500K worked items per hour in a single instance (clustered). That is, the
          > instance is cluster enabled and is watching for multicast, etc..
          >
          > When I add the second instance into the cluster, the cluster-wide
          throughput
          > with the six drivers drops to 370K items per hour. When I add the third
          > instance, the cluster-wide throughput drops further to 250K items per
          hour.
          > When I kill an instance, the throughput grows back to 370K items per hour.
          > When I kill another instance (to get back to one instance), the throughput
          > grows back to 500K/hr.
          >
          > Can somebody point out what we are doing wrong - do we need to tweek some
          > WLS parameters, do we have to avoid some features that limit cluster
          > scalability, etc..
          >
          > My WLS configuration is .....
          > - WLS 5.1, SP5
          > - JDK 1.2.1_04c with JIT, no Hotspot
          >
          > My hardware/software configuration consists of:
          > - an E4500 - 8 processor database server - this is only running at 15%
          > server busy
          > - three E4500 - all 8 processors/6GB RAM - application processors
          >
          > The cluster is implemented with one instance per application server.
          > Each application server is only 10-15% busy.
          >
          > My driver and application is ....
          > - stateless EJB driver and stateless EJB bean
          >
          > Your thoughts and comments would be greatly appreciated.
          >
          > Bernie
          >
          >


Thanks. It works. We screwed up the settings.
          "Bernie Wong" <[email protected]> wrote in message
          news:[email protected]...
          > Thanks for the reply.
          >
          > We ran the benchmark again and got the same scaling profile. This
          afternoon,
          > we are going to run a benchmark with a really simple driver + bean (a do
          > nothing bean) and see if we get the same scaling profile. From all the
          > responses, it would appear that WLS can scale therefore we want to isolate
          > the problem to either our code or our configuration (or both).
          >
          > I will let you know.
          >
          > Bernie
          >
          > "Rob Woollen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
          > news:[email protected]...
          > > Make sure that this was set on the client not the server.
          > >
          > > -- Rob
          > >
          > > Bernie Wong wrote:
          > > >
          > > > Jim,
          > > >
          > > > Thanks for the suggestions. One of my performance engineers ran
          several
          > > > experiments last week where he set the executeThreadCount to 6 and to
          10
          > > > along with a percentSocketReaders to 50. He saw no improvement. We
          will
          > > > rerun that experiment again since that seems to be the most common
          > > > recommendation.
          > > >
          > > > Bernie
          > > >
          > > > "Jim Zhou" <[email protected]> wrote in message
          > > > news:[email protected]...
          > > > > One possible reason is not enough socket reader execute threads, try
          > to do
          > > > > this:
          > > > > "-Dweblogic.system.executeThreadCount=10"
          > > > > "-Dweblogic.system.percentSocketReaders=50" on your client JVM
          startup
          > > > > command line.
          > > > >
          > > > > http://www.weblogic.com/docs51/admindocs/tuning.html#tuning clients
          > > > >
          > > > > WebLogic RMI
          > > > > If you are using WebLogic RMI clients and there are more than 2
          > Weblogic
          > > > > servers in a cluster, you may encounter a significant performance
          > > > > degradation (very long round trip times for stateless session beans,
          > for
          > > > > instance). The solution is to make some property changes on the
          client
          > > > side
          > > > > as explained below.
          > > > >
          > > > > The solution to this problem is to ensure that there are at least as
          > many
          > > > > socket reader threads as there are connections to the server and
          also
          > > > > allowing for some extra threads for processing other tasks. This is
          > > > > accomplished by starting the client with the command line argument
          > > > > "-Dweblogic.system.percentSocketReaders" set to a sufficiently high
          > > > > percentage (say 50) and by ensuring that there sufficient number of
          > > > execute
          > > > > threads for other processing on the client. A metric of twice the
          > number
          > > > of
          > > > > execute threads as there are servers in a cluster should work fine
          if
          > the
          > > > > above percentage is at 50. The command line argument affecting the
          > number
          > > > of
          > > > > execute threads is
          > > > >
          > > > > "-Dweblogic.system.executeThreadCount".
          > > > >
          > > > > For instance, we could use:
          > > > >
          > > > > "-Dweblogic.system.executeThreadCount=10"
          > > > >
          > > > > and
          > > > >
          > > > > "-Dweblogic.system.percentSocketReaders=50"
          > > > >
          > > > > when testing with 3 or 4 servers in a cluster.
          > > > >
          > > > >
          > > > > Bernie Wong <[email protected]> wrote in message
          > > > > news:[email protected]...
          > > > > > Thanks for the quick reply.
          > > > > >
          > > > > > Yes, we are running WLS with the performance pack.
          > > > > >
          > > > > >
          > > > > > "Bernie Wong" <[email protected]> wrote in message
          > > > > > news:[email protected]...
          > > > > > > Fellow clusterers ....
          > > > > > >
          > > > > > > I have an EJB driver program that pumps work into a WLS cluster.
          > For
          > > > > > > scalability, I increase the number of drivers. The drivers have
          a
          > big
          > > > > pool
          > > > > > > of work to pump into the cluster.
          > > > > > >
          > > > > > > I noticed that with 6 (nothing special about that number)
          drivers,
          > I
          > > > can
          > > > > > get
          > > > > > > 500K worked items per hour in a single instance (clustered).
          That
          > is,
          > > > > the
          > > > > > > instance is cluster enabled and is watching for multicast, etc..
          > > > > > >
          > > > > > > When I add the second instance into the cluster, the
          cluster-wide
          > > > > > throughput
          > > > > > > with the six drivers drops to 370K items per hour. When I add
          the
          > > > third
          > > > > > > instance, the cluster-wide throughput drops further to 250K
          items
          > per
          > > > > > hour.
          > > > > > > When I kill an instance, the throughput grows back to 370K items
          > per
          > > > > hour.
          > > > > > > When I kill another instance (to get back to one instance), the
          > > > > throughput
          > > > > > > grows back to 500K/hr.
          > > > > > >
          > > > > > > Can somebody point out what we are doing wrong - do we need to
          > tweek
          > > > > some
          > > > > > > WLS parameters, do we have to avoid some features that limit
          > cluster
          > > > > > > scalability, etc..
          > > > > > >
          > > > > > > My WLS configuration is .....
          > > > > > > - WLS 5.1, SP5
          > > > > > > - JDK 1.2.1_04c with JIT, no Hotspot
          > > > > > >
          > > > > > > My hardware/software configuration consists of:
          > > > > > > - an E4500 - 8 processor database server - this is only
          > running at
          > > > > 15%
          > > > > > > server busy
          > > > > > > - three E4500 - all 8 processors/6GB RAM - application
          > processors
          > > > > > >
          > > > > > > The cluster is implemented with one instance per application
          > > > server.
          > > > > > > Each application server is only 10-15% busy.
          > > > > > >
          > > > > > > My driver and application is ....
          > > > > > > - stateless EJB driver and stateless EJB bean
          > > > > > >
          > > > > > > Your thoughts and comments would be greatly appreciated.
          > > > > > >
          > > > > > > Bernie
          > > > > > >
          > > > > > >
          > > > > >
          > > > > >
          > > > >
          > > > >
          >
          >

Throughput drops dramatically when I increase the number of instances in a cluster

Fellow clusterers ....
I have an EJB driver program that pumps work into a WLS cluster. For
scalability, I increase the number of drivers. The drivers have a big pool
of work to pump into the cluster.
I noticed that with 6 (nothing special about that number) drivers, I can get
500K worked items per hour in a single instance (clustered). That is, the
instance is cluster enabled and is watching for multicast, etc..
When I add the second instance into the cluster, the cluster-wide throughput
with the six drivers drops to 370K items per hour. When I add the third
instance, the cluster-wide throughput drops further to 250K items per hour.
When I kill an instance, the throughput grows back to 370K items per hour.
When I kill another instance (to get back to one instance), the throughput
grows back to 500K/hr.
Can somebody point out what we are doing wrong - do we need to tweek some
WLS parameters, do we have to avoid some features that limit cluster
scalability, etc..
My WLS configuration is .....
- WLS 5.1, SP5
- JDK 1.2.1_04c with JIT, no Hotspot
- we enabled performance pack
My hardware/software configuration consists of:
- an E4500 - 8 processor database server - this is only running at 15%
server busy
- three E4500 - all 8 processors/6GB RAM - application processors
The cluster is implemented with one instance per application server.
Each application server is only 10-15% busy.
My driver and application is ....
- stateless EJB driver and stateless EJB bean
Your thoughts and comments would be greatly appreciated.
Bernie

The short answer is to set the following tuneables on the client side:
java -Dweblogic.system.executeThreadCount=10
-Dweblogic.system.percentSocketReaders=50 <your client program>
http://www.weblogic.com/docs51/admindocs/tuning.html#tuning clients
Srikant, [email protected], http://weblogic.bea.com/, etc.
Bernie Wong wrote:
Fellow clusterers ....
I have an EJB driver program that pumps work into a WLS cluster. For
scalability, I increase the number of drivers. The drivers have a big pool
of work to pump into the cluster.
I noticed that with 6 (nothing special about that number) drivers, I can get
500K worked items per hour in a single instance (clustered). That is, the
instance is cluster enabled and is watching for multicast, etc..
When I add the second instance into the cluster, the cluster-wide throughput
with the six drivers drops to 370K items per hour. When I add the third
instance, the cluster-wide throughput drops further to 250K items per hour.
When I kill an instance, the throughput grows back to 370K items per hour.
When I kill another instance (to get back to one instance), the throughput
grows back to 500K/hr.
Can somebody point out what we are doing wrong - do we need to tweek some
WLS parameters, do we have to avoid some features that limit cluster
scalability, etc..
My WLS configuration is .....
- WLS 5.1, SP5
- JDK 1.2.1_04c with JIT, no Hotspot
- we enabled performance pack
My hardware/software configuration consists of:
- an E4500 - 8 processor database server - this is only running at 15%
server busy
- three E4500 - all 8 processors/6GB RAM - application processors
The cluster is implemented with one instance per application server.
Each application server is only 10-15% busy.
My driver and application is ....
- stateless EJB driver and stateless EJB bean
Your thoughts and comments would be greatly appreciated.
Bernie

Transunion & Equifax Credit Scores Dropped more than 20 pts!!!

I check my husbands credit score once a week (Credit Karma updates weekly). His scores have been between 525 and 540 on both with Transunion being the highest. For the past 2 weeks they have gone down! Equifax is now 499 and Transunion is 468!!
There's nothing new that I can see, does anyone know the reason this can happen?? He has a few collections, nothing new was added. The collection agencies report monthly. PRA only reported to Transunion for June!
Thanks

CK is basically worthless when it comes to gaining an 'accurate' overall snapshot of your credit profile and score. It always shows that one of my new auto loans has been deleted from the report, yet all of my credit reports (including CK report) show it is still there.My TU FICO8 is 757, no baddies at all, and yet CK shows my score to be 617 (no baddies, everything exactly as the TU site and MyFico reports). Also, I almost didn't apply for a LOWEs card because it showed that I had a poor chance of being approved. I did it anyway and have a $10K SL. It's great for notifications, I get them almost immediately and it's great to review and if anything seems inaccurate, you can pull the actual report, but other wise, Ck is for entertainment, IMHO

WEI score dropped after RAM upgrade

i am facing a problem of my x201,i buy 2 of 4gb ram for it ,but i rate the windows experience index , my mark of the processor drop form 6.7 to 3.7 also the mark of the ram drop from 6.7 to 5.4 too.the config of my machine is i3 380m ,8gb ,320 gb(7200rpm) WHY? anybody can tell me?
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Ignore windows expirience index. it's good for a baseline feeling of things, but it's not extremely accurate.
find a real benchmarking program. run it and see what it tells you.
I use Everest Benchmarking from Lavalys, but it's up to you.
Oh, and if you really have 8gb of RAM installed, chances are that your processor might be having trouble reading through it as quickly as It would 4 Gb of Ram. that extra load in reading the memory would also produce the drop in Processor score you saw. I wouldnt think it would drop that much, but who knows.
But again, WEI isn't that accurate when you get into high preformance and large memory.
Oh, and you did buy DDR3-1066Mhz capable RAM sticks, right? If you bought DDR2 sticks, they'll still work, but they'll slow you down.
Might also want to check the Frequency on your Memory Bus in you BIOS. the bios on my desktop sometimes flips out when I install new memory, and it defaults to a "safe" frequency. on the x201, I'm pretty sure it's 1066Mhz, or 1333Mhz, depending on what Bell-and-Whistle set you've bought. Don't take my word for it though. Check with lenovo support and in your documentation before screwing with your BIOS.

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