Turn on Full Range Speakers and Bass Redirecti

I have the Logitech X-530 (5.) speaker system connected to my X-Fi XtremeMusic sound card. In the Vista Speaker Setup, it says to select "full-range speakers." Am I supposed to select the speakers Also, I have Bass Redirection turned on in the X-Fi audio console, since apparently it's supposed to make the subwoofer work better, is this true

As far as I know, the default "Bass Redirection" scheme that comes with Sound Blasters will redirect bass from the 5 channels to the subwoofer. Not the opposite. Also notice, that most speakers have a built-in crossover network that does just that. So even if you did redirect the bass to the speakers from the soundcard it would end up in the subwoofer. However when doing the redirection on the soundcard in the digital domain, they have to normalize the signal to avoid clipping. This explains the "lower" bass level you are experiencing with bass redirection set to on. If your speakers didn't have a cross-over network, you wouldn't hear anything from the sub unless you enabled "bass redirection"?Now I don't think that behaviour would change in games, but games do tend to have more "bassy" sound. My suggestion is to keep "Bass Redirection" off under all circumstances and use the Equalizer or the Subwoofer volume knob (most 5. systems have one) to bring the level to your liking. PS:? The X-Fi also has a "+5dB Bass Boost" option to alleviate the effects of normalization, which you can experiment with.

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mcgyvrMessage Edited by mcgyvr8 on 0-20-2005 0:08 PM

I have the same thing with this option -and I asking for fix (again....)
I have Audigy 2 ZS OEM, Yamaha RXV-440 Home Cinema Recei'ver and big 5. home cinema speakers. Audigy 2 ZS is connected to Yamaha by 3 analog outputs (connecting it by spdif cause no CMSS stereo to surround upmix and only stereo sound for all none DD/DTS sound sources like MP3, games, mpg/DivX/XviD films...thats why I must connect them by annalog outputs/inputs).
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When I enable bass redirection and set cutoff frequency to 70Hz then there is signal on analog sub out but speakers have bass cutted off (20Hz - 70Hz) and playing only frequencies from 70Hz to 20kHz
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I have this problems on SB Li've, I have this problem on Audigy 2 ZS and this problem still exist on Audigy 4 !!! (I'am using now modded Audigy 4 drivers to work on all Audigy series but there is the same problem as in orginal A2 ZS drivers).
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I have the exact same problem.
I just bought the card yesterday. And I thought ok lets see what it can do. I put 5. speakers mode, i enable bass redirection to subwoofer and what i heard was terrible distortion. (I have a stand-alone self-amplified subwoofer). Just to be sure that this wasn't an issue of my subwoofer, i connected the subwoofer output to a normal speaker, the sound was crap, distortion and "garbage" was coming out from the x-fi...
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Today I tested it with Vista 32, same distortion here as well.
This situation is awful, cause you cant listen to music and any kind of stereo (2-channel) sound using the subwoofer...
IMHO this is a serious flaw of the Vista 32/x64 driver for this card please look in to it!
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WRe: Windows 7 64 bit and X-Fi XtremeGamer - Bass Redirection Not Working (No Subwoofer)h heya, I have exactly the same problem.
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