Turned TM off... cannot delete a few files?!?!

Ok... I got sick of the space TM was taking up and turned it off. Now I have 3 files that will not delete: BOOTX, BOOT.EFI, (2nd) BOOTX
What the heck?!?! I can't even change the read/write properties to allow me to remove it unless there is a string I haven't tried?!? I also can't find a fix on here that will let me get rid of them...
thanks.

jagered wrote:
excellent work pondini!
i tried strings like that in terminal that i found on mac sites and none worked... that one was perfect.
Yeah, I avoid Terminal like the plague. One space missing or in the wrong place and it won't work, which would be fine if it put up some sort of message, but of course it doesn't!
and sorry if you took it as ranting, it was more like frustration dealing with the trash files that couldn't get removed!
Understood -- been there, done that!
From your earlier post:
and if TM doesn't duplicate backups... how then do mine get to 100+ gigs in size when i exclude my largest folders?!?! to me that shows a flaw...
There are a several possibilities, but first a refresher:
This is way oversimplified, but when TM does your first backup, it makes a folder named with the data & time of the backup. Inside it are "hard links" (sort of like aliases) to the actual backup copies of everything on your system (that are hidden somewhere else). To us mere mortals using the Finder, the hard links look like the actual backup copies.
When it makes the next backup, it does the same thing for all new or changed files, and makes more hard links (cleverly called "multi-links") to the backups of the things that didn't change. Even more unusual, the hard links are at the file level when necessary, but at the directory (folder) level when nothing in the entire folder changed. Thus each hourly backup appears to be a full backup, but of course isn't.
If you look at the sizes of each of those folders, each one will be the size of all the data on your system, and the total will be many times the actual amount used on the TM disk. That's because the actual backup copies don't "belong" to any one folder, but are counted over and over. Two plus two can equal a hundred here!
Depending on what you deleted via the Finder, you may have deleted the multi-links and some, but not all, of the actual backup copies. They're now "abandoned" -- taking up space, but not findable. The next time Time Machine does a "deep traversal," it won't realize those files have been backed-up, so it will back them up again.
Some things will cause Time Machine to do a new, full backup of your entire system (or an entire drive), including a full restore. See #D3 in the Time Machine - Troubleshooting *User Tip,* also at the top of this forum.
Some OSX features and 3rd-party apps can cause extra-large backups, too. See #D4 in the Troubleshooting Tip.
So, reformat your TM drive, make your partition(s), start TM up and let it do a full backup. If subsequent hourly backups seem too large, check #D3 or #D4 in the Troubleshooting Tip -- they'll show you how to figure out what's going on, and how to deal with it.

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