Turning off new message indicator AND the new message count

Greetings,
Is it possible to turn off both the new message indicator (red asterix) and the new message count?
I would like no message indicators to appear on my blackberry home screen.
Thanks ever so much for your help.

I guess I didn't read close enough.  I don't think you can turn off the red asterisk.  It's going to show up on the icon no matter what. 
As for the text messages, I'm not sure the setting for not showing message count indicator applies for text messges.  In fact, if you have OS 5, it most likely doesn't as sms is handled much differently.   
You can turn off sounds and the red led in Profiles (or Sounds in OS 5)
You're basically wanting to disabl everything the phone was designed to do.
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