TV eats even the Title Safe area

Hi all,
I've put together a DVD with testvid's to see which compression is best.
My testDVD has some buttons to watch those video's. All the buttons are way inside the Title Safe area. The settings are PAL 16:9. I watched it on a PAL-TV 16:9 but it eats even my buttons. It'd kinda like its stretching it way beyond 16:9. Anybody has a clue what to do here? I prefer solving the problem instead of hoping the client's dvdplayer plays it right.
I checked every setting in the TV, the dvd player doesnt have Video-settings. When I put the TV into 4:3 it is also cropping the video.
On my computer everything is normal, I'll do some more tests at home this weekend.. It's a pain in the butt when you do everything by the book and dont get the result you're looking for.
Thanks for reading this. I hope someone can help me out here.

Yes, four were rendered using a 768x576 Pal preset.
After that I compressed them into MPEG-2 PAL 4:3 for DVD, I overlooked this setting, thats why its 4:3.
The other three were rendered 1920x1080 Self containing movie.
After that I compressed them into MPEG-2 PAL 16:9 for DVD.
Settings in DVD Studio Pro are 16:9.
The big question is why the different ratios show 16:9 on my TV but not in VLC.

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Since I am using one of my images as the background for the menu, I'd like to know how much of the image might be cropped.
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My experience is confined to PAL. Image sizes for NTSC are different. As I understand it, Title Safe and Action Safe areas do not exist in, and are irrelevant to, the widescreen (16:9) format when displayed on a 16:9 TV. This is because every pixel of a widescreen video is always shown on a widescreen TV (assuming that the DVD player has been set to 16:9, see below). Title/Action Safe areas are only necessary for displaying widescreen video on 4:3 format TVs. This is because the Powers That Be decided that widescreem video should be shown slightly enlarged on a 4:3 TV. This gives a larger and therefore clearer image compared to full Letterboxing where the full width of the widescreen image is shown but with inevitably wider black bars at top and bottom. However, this enlargement causes parts of the widescreen image at left and right to be cropped on most TVs, which is usually no great loss.
On the display settings, for movies in widescreen (16:9), I set the display options in the following places:
1. DVD SP > Preferences > Encoding Set "Aspect Ratio" to 16:9
2. DVD SP > Preferences > Simulator Set "Aspect" to 16:9
3. In the Menu Inspector for each menu, Menu Tab, set "Aspect Ratio" to 16:9, and do this before setting the Menu Background image and its Overlay file (otherwise the Overlay file will not register accurately with the Menu Background image, at least that is the case with my outfit - DVD SP 3.0
4. Set each Video Track to 16:9 To do that, activate the Graphical Tab in the window at top left of the screen, select the track, and in the now-visible Track Inspector (General Tab) I set "Mode" to "16:9 (Letterbox)" because my TV is 4:3. (It is tempting to assume that if the TV is widescreen, you would set it to "16:9", but with my setting of "16:9 (Letterbox)" the DVD also displayed correctly on two widescreen TVs available to me (ie., it filled the whole screen). I don't know what display setting the owners had on their DVD players.
5. Finally, the DVD player needs to be set to 16:9 (if the TV is physically 16:9), or to 4:3L if the TV is 4:3 (at least, that works for me).
So there is quite a lot of setting to do to get the correct display. I am surprised that Apple did not offer a single setting in Preferences to cover all this. Perhaps DVD SP 4 or 5 does.
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Action/Title Safe Areas

I am having problems setting up guides for safe areas and I wondered if
anyone else had some advice or tips.
In the Preferences under Grids & Guides the Action Safe and Title Safe are
preset to 10% and 20% respectively. But this relates to the size of the
comp, I am working in HD so my comp is 1920 x 1080 and the Title/Action safe
guides are set proportional to that. However in reality I have to set my
Title Safe area to be Title Safe for 4:3 within a 16:9 HD comp for
international sales to countries still using 4:3 TV.
If I change the value for the Title Safe area in the Preferences to say 30%
to show a guide closer to the 4:3 safe area I need to adhere to it changes
BOTH the width and the height so the width might be accurate but the height
is way out. On top of that I also have to work with 14:9 Title Safe areas
for some projects too so I'd like to see those.
I can drag guidelines to sit over the correct areas but this a pain as the
guides are just for each individual comp not all the nested comps I work
with when making the animation so I have to make them anew for every comp
and project to make sure text is safe, I can't just click on the Action/Safe
when I want to see it.
I downloaded a Photoshop comp from the BBC in the UK and have been importing
that as an overlay to check my Title safe but I really wanted to know if I
am missing something. Avid Media Composer for example shows guides for
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Title Safe, is there nothing I can do in After Effects to have the guides
permanently set to multiple safe areas or even just the correct height and
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BBC links if anyone is interested:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/tvbranding/picturesize.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/tvbranding/artwork1.shtml

Many thanks for those links silversurfer. When I compare them to the ones I
got from the BBC they don't match up though; your Action Safe is their 3:4
picture area and your Title Safe is wider than their Action Safe. This is
the other issue I have run into, that different broadcasters have different
specifications.
The guides the BBC give as safe margins for 4:3 Title Safe within a 16:9
widescreen frame are 10% top and bottom and 20.5% left and right. Doing the
math for an HD 16:9 frame makes a box 1132 pixels wide by 864 high with the
margins set at 394px left, 1526px right, 108px bottom and 972px top. (Their
4:3 Action Safe is 5% top and bottom and 17% left and right.)
It would be great in CS4 to be able to set templates that can quickly be
called up across comps and projects, the single percentage option they have
right now for both width and height is pretty useless. I have been importing
a Photoshop template but it's an inelegant kludge.
I was hoping I was being dumb and had missed a vital feature, but it seems
not! :-(

Title Safe Area and Action Safe Area

I understand the recomandations about the Title Safe Area and Action Safe Area (PDF p215).
I am wondering if this is still acurate today, considering many people in the U.S have widescreen TVs. I`m just wondering if anybody still have a TV that only shows the Title safe area?
Also, on a Widescreen TV, is there any chance to have only the Action safe area?
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I very much doubt anyone has a TV that only displays title safe area and nothing outside of it... the Title Safe area is a percentage reduction from the outer edge of the image. If a TV is showing in the 4:3 aspect ratio, any image will be sized appropriately to fit, and the title safe will be proportional... 10% in from the outer edge.
The title safe area originally existed to allow for text to be showing without too much distortion on a curved TV screen. The Action safe area simply extended beyond this to the edge of the screen, and is 5% in from the edge of the footage.
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On a computer screen the entire image is seen regardless, as the geometry of the screen is adjusted to appear within the entire display, and so AS and TS areas don't really apply.
Whether or not your screen is widescreen doesn't matter, it's all about pixel aspect ratios. The image is displayed proportionately, and the visible areas are the same from screen to screen. When setting up photoshop images with guides to show AS and TS, you'll find that the TV image is 720px wide, and the guides are set at 36px from the left and right for the AS, and 72px in for the TS. The vertical size differs between NTSC and PAL, and thus the guides are positioned differently, but still 5 and 10% respectively.

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http://support.apple.com/kb/PH11395
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