Twain, 64 bit and CS5

I just took a look at the Twain site and from what I've found, 64 bit twain now exists. When will Photoshop have support?
I've seen the argument to just use 32 bit, but that is a bad answer. My scanner is capable of huge file sizes from scans of medium format negatives and the need should be obvious. Will Adobe ever have support for Twain in 64 bit to advantage the software for multiple scans at one time using Epson's software? As old as 64 bit is, I'm amazed any company is not on top of this. Last I asked, Epson seemed to blame Adobe, who blamed Twain.org and so on. Seems as though the Twain Driver is now available to developers or are they wrong at Twain.org?
Epson Scanners are the best, Photoshop is the best; seems you folks could get your heads together on this. I don't see any software with WIA support coming out of Epson nor do I see any progress from Adobe regarding this. There are huge advantages in time and workflow to be gotten here. Pro level software and equiptment should not be ignoring the fact you can't even find a 32 bit machine anymore, nor is their any reason to own a dinosaur.

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Blaine91555 wrote:
I don't see any software with WIA support coming out of Epson
One has to wonder about that. Why not? They may just believe that the Adobe 32 bit solution is good enough for now.
Adobe is the 800 lb gorilla in this game, and I wouldn't be too surprised if they decided CS6 will be 64 bit only (I have no knowledge of their direction; this is pure speculation). I suspect, facing a complete inability to sell into the Photoshop market without a 64 bit solution, Epson would suddenly, miraculously rise to the occasion.
When there is an available path for compatibility, it's easy for managers to choose not to spend money on development. Impending disaster is the only way to get some of them to move.
And could it be that Adobe feels scanners are old tech? That digital cameras are the real future of image acquisition and scanners will simply be sidelined?
Personally, I have had a number of scanners (more than I should have had because they were obsoleted by new OS releases and no drivers were released for them), but I don't have one now and haven't for about 2 years. I no longer feel the need myself.
-Noel

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