Twelve hours to convert to H.264 - normal?

It just took my Dual 2.5ghz G5, 4gb ram, TWELVE HOURS to convert a 90-minute feature film to an H.264 mp4, using the Best Quality Multipass option.
Is this normal? Nothing else was running except Transmission (torrent programme) - I left it over night. No other apps were even open.
The file it was converting was a QT reference movie (comprised of four identical DV-PAL Quicktime .movs - basically sections of the same film).

To save space I will often do 24 fps vs. 30 and it is smaller and you really don't see a lot of difference.This is a misconception. The file would be smaller if and only if each frame were to have the same average amount of data. (Where X is the average amount of data per frame, 24X < 30X.) However, given that each file has the same data rate, then the files will be the same size because both have the same amount of data in the same unit of time no matter which data rate is used. Basically, the 24 fps files has higher "per pixel" quality while the 30 fps file generally has better rendering of vector motion and transitions.

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ty...

oh, no ty i dont wanna buy anything jaja ty anyway.
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