Two analog input tasks

Hi,
I have a VI with two analog input tasks. One outputs a waveform, from which I determine the frequency of that waveform. Another one just samples the signal once, because all I need is to one value from the signal.
Is there any way to synchronize these tasks? Right now I perform one task then the other because from what I know, you cannot perform two analog input tasks at the same time.
I've attached a VI. Thanks for the help.
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Master_v2.vi ‏98 KB

duplicate post. Try to to keep the same question in one thread. What is wrong with adding all of you channels to the single task as recomended?

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