Two BW systems to one R/3 system

Hi,
We have connected two BW systems to R/3. The physical connection is working as it should, but we have problems loading data. The message we got is to do with basic idoc type "BW unknown in source system".
Can anybody tell me what to do?
Regards,
Harald

Hi
Is the 2 BW systems identical?
if they are check your midlewear (usually a Basis task).
If the 2 BW sys are not the same then u need to check the compatibility between R3 and the failing BW (could be Plug in's or SP's).
Reg's
Edan

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Note: I have posted this message earlier ......but couldn't find that. I am just reposting the message:
In our quality environment, we have two SRM and two backend systems. One for testing purpose and other for training purpose. We are planning to remove one back end system and connect both the SRM systems to one backend system.
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We have a client requirement to link Two SRM Systems with One ECC system.
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Edited by: anil.s.verma on Oct 1, 2010 4:33 PM

Hello Anil,
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