Two-Page Spread in Photo Creations

I cannot get a 2-page spread to view in my Photo Book using Photo Creations. Can anybody help please?
Úna
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Hi Una.
Which type of photo book are you trying to make? For ship-to-home books, you should see a pair of facing pages on all types except layflat books, in which the image spans the entire spread.
If you're making print-at-home photo book pages, you'll see only one page at a time.
Please let us know,
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I have worked out a simple way to put a single picture in the background on a two-page spread!

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So here's the exciting bit (well the solution anyway):
Click on the picture you want to use as your two-page spread
STEP 1 - In the Library module
select your image (e.g. X.jpg) and right click on "Export..."
send a copy of this picture to "Same folder as original photo" (DON'T overwrite! remember to use a unique name, such as X_1.jpg)
then repeat to create another copy (use another unique name, such as X_2.jpg)
STEP 2 - In the Develop module, take X_1 and:
click on Crop Overlay (the dotted rectangle at the top of the right menu, just below the histogram)
select a region that is 50% of the width of your original image (easiest is to click on Custom and enter original height plus half original width)
click on the middle of crop region (hand grab icon) and drag the image all the way to the RIGHT
click again on the dotted rectangle
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STEP 3 - In the Develop module, then take X_2 and:
click on Crop Overlay
select the same region that you used for step 2
click on the middle of crop region (hand grab icon) and drag the image all the way to the LEFT
click again on the dotted rectangle
X_2 will now be an image that is just the RIGHT half of your original image.
STEP 4 - In the Library module
select the folder your original photo was in
find your two new copies of that photo
drag them to your book situated in the Collections folder on the left menu bar
STEP 5 - Look under Collections and click on your book and then in the Book module
in the Background section (right side menu), UNcheck "Apply Background Globally"
to the right of the small rectangle below that, click on the tiny arrowhead and make sure "Photos" is selected
select the left page of your spread and drag X_1 (the left half) onto the rectangle
select the right page of your spread and drag X_1 (the right half) onto the rectangle
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Of course, you can now select any of the existing templates for your left and right pages. Remember, if you don't fill a particular template frame with a photo, it remains blank in the finished product (you can always check the preview in the top left corner in Spread View mode). For example you could pick a 4 x 4 template and only use the top three outer frames on the outer edge of both pages.
Have fun! I was so excited when I finally worked out this work-around

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This is probably going to sound complicated:
I'm in a small program, and we want to create a yearbook, which we decided to do ourselves since there's so few of us. The book will have pages of events and groups, of course, but also "profile pages" where photos focused on a single person are included.
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Two page spreads are tricky and will depend on how the binding is done by the third party printer. If you look closely at the PDF file created by Aperture for books, you'll notice that the individual pages of a two page spread do not absolutely bisect the image you've aligned across the two pages. Rather, the inside binding-side edges will give you a little extra bleed, so that in binding with the book pages spread open, you'll see one continuous image without white space.
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If so, that's a huge problem because you created your document the wrong way ... And it's not easily fixed either.
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JWKewet wrote:
I'm laying out a long novel in InDesign CS3. I've set the text to align to the baseline grid and have the keep options set to prevent widows and orphans. Because of these keep settings, often one page is a line shorter than the one facing it. Is there some way to set things up so that the longer page in a 2-page spread automatically breaks a line sooner, so as to match the shorter facing page -- or do I have to introduce page breaks manually, spread by spread?
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