Two servers, one RAID

RAID newb here. I've searched this forum and found some hints to the answer, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway, just to be sure.
I have a Promise RAID, only the top enclosure is full. I believe only one controller accesses that top enclosure.
I have two servers. I know only one can access the controller at a time, but if I have two partitions, can each one access its own partition without affecting the other? If so, how do I go about setting that up?
Added bonus: One server is Leopard, the other is Snow Leopard.
It's not a total dealbreaker if this can't be done, I just want to make sure it can't be done before I plan my next step.
Thanks!
Michelle
Message was edited by: ModoReese

There are only two ports in the controller - if you're okay with only accessing the Promise from one connection each you can plug one server into one port and the other into the other.
NOTE: You CANNOT access the same data from two servers at one time. You can't even have the same data mounted on both server simultaneously without risking data corruption.
What you want to look into is LUN masking. You can use LUN masking to determine which unit (based on port) can see what data at any given time. The concept and set-up of this actually relatively easy on the Promise box look through the documentation and it should answer your questions.
What I can't answer for you is whether your current partition scheme is compatible with the LUN masking set-up. I've only set-up Promise boxes from scratch for LUN masking never retroactively against a standing set-up of existing partitions. Sorry for the partial answer but hopefully someone who's done what you're trying to do can address it directly. Worst case scenario involves backing the data off the partitions, reformatting the Promise into LUN maskable volumes and putting the data back onto it.
Good luck,
=Tod

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