Two timecode stripes at different frame rates? (and other BITC stuff)

I'm not an FCP user, but I'm working with an editor who's not that up on the finer points of FCP operation. Would like to know if certain things are possible...
1a. Is it possible for FCP to simultaneously output a QT file with two different BITC stripes running at different frame rates (say, 29.97 fps and 23.976fps)? Or...
1b. For an already BITC'd work print (striped with 23.976 timecode) is it possible to add a second stripe at 29.97 fps, synchronized from the 1-hour mark (first frame of picture)?
2. Are there any parameters available in FCP to adjust the size of the numbers and the position of a timecode stripe?
3. BONUS QUESTION: what does the "R" in "TCR" mean? (just curious -- I've seen this for years but never knew what the "R" stood for).
Message was edited by: iSchwartz

iSchwarz!
Welcome to the visual side of things. Never thought I'd see you venture out of Soundtrack Pro and Logic land, glad to see you here.
3. R stand for Reader. TimeCodeReader. G will stand for Generator. TimeCodeGenerator
2. You mean adjust the TCR window? If you drop the filter on a clip, load that clip into the viewer, you can adjust the filter parameters there.
1b. BITC? There are 2 type of timecode that I'm aware of: VTC (or ViTC)(Vertical Interval Timecode) and LTC (Longitudinal Timecode). I seriously doubt this as then FCP would have to use to different timebases within the same sequence.
1a. Again, I seriously doubt this do to the different timebases.
You could print to tape this 23.976 fps sequence which FCP would add the pulldown resulting in 29.97 fps timecode and then import that. Or, maybe Compressor can add the pulldown and export a file wtih 29.97 fps timecode. Don't know, never needed to try that.
Good luck, report back with your findings.
Zeb

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Looking at the times, I see this only takes a fraction of a second but my startup time is still much much longer than it ever was or should.
Does anyone have any idea on how to get rid of this? I deleted the Captive Network Assistant.app from my computer but the checking continues. It seems to be a rarely mentioned issue doing a web search, and nothing like this, although it's referred to in certain articles.
Really weird.
Gregg

I'd take another look at your startup log.
If you look closely, you'll see that all those log messages occurred in the space of 30 milliseconds - by comparison, a human blink takes about 150 milliseconds.
So while I don't doubt you're seeing slow startup time, I don't think CaptiveNetworkSupport is the culprit, per se.
Fortunately, since every startup event is timestamped, it should be easy enough to determine what task is taking the most time.
As for CNS, it's not just an iOS thing - it's standard in Mac OS X, too. I'm also under the impression (but can't confirm) that it only checks the networks that you've previously connected to, so check System Preferences -> Network -> AirPort -> Advanced -> WiFi and delete any networks you no longer use or expect to connect to.

In need of help didn't install find my iPhone on my iPhone 5 and it got stolen from me at a dd's but I had my id and other important stuff in it I need to find it because I can't risk getting my identity stolen what can I do.

In need of help didn't install find my iPhone on my iPhone 5 and it got stolen from me at a dd's but I had my id and other important stuff in it I need to find it because I can't risk getting my identity stolen what can I do.

You don't have to install the Find My iPhone app - you need to switch the feature on in the settings on the phone.
If you go here: https://www.icloud.com/#find does your phone show up?
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