Two wireless networks

I'm considering getting the Time Capsule to not only provide it as a source for Time Machine backups but to add another new wireless network. I currently have my Macbook, ATV and a Windows laptop (Wife's) connected wirelessly to the AEBS. I have to run the AEBS in the N/G/B compatible mode since the Windows machine does not have a N compatible wifi card. I want to be able to run my N compatible gear on a separate N network and the Windows machine on a G network. I think I understand how to marry my existing AEBS to the Time Capsule (Bridged mode, different wifi name etc.) But, my question is will I be able to access all the LAN connections on both routers from both networks? For one, I have a NAS drive that I would like to be able to access.

As Duane points out, that won't be a problem. As long as you have DHCP off in Time Capsule, then you should have no problems connecting and accessing from both LAN networks.
I myself have an Airport in 54G only, and another D-Link wireless router in b/g, both have different wifi names, my Airport has DHCP disabled and a wire connected to my D-Link wiress router. I can access all LAN functions from both devices together, there's no problem in both talking, and both devices share my internet from my cable connection. In all, you should be good to go.

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Can I connect a wireless printer to two wireless networks

I searched and couldn't find an answer to this exact situation. The answers to similar questions didn't seem to work.
Can we share a wireless printer over two wireless networks without adding hardware or changing the wiring or doing complicated software modifications?
Here is my set-up:
Cable Modem> Linksys Wireless Router “N” on the first floor > older AirPort Extreme “G” via ethernet cable on second floor > Laser Printer via USB Cable on the second floor, plus an AirPort Express to extend the area on the second floor. We have 2 MacBooks and 1 MacBookPro that connect to the internet via either of 2 wireless networks. Generally, for better connection, you choose “N” if you are on the first floor and “G” for the second floor.
Currently, if you want to print to the USB Printer, you just select it in the print dialog box. It does not matter if you are on Network “N” or Network “G.”
We just added a new wireless Printer that’s on the first floor. (No, I didn't read the directions, the printer screen said if there is a W?? button on your router, press it. I did and it automatically connected to the “N” network. It also has its own email address for printing without a computer, but that still doesn't solve this question.)
If you want to print to this printer, you must first change the computer’s AirPort setting to join the “N” network. If you don't, you still get the print dialog box, but eventually you will notice that nothing happens. The document just sits in the Printer’s queue.
Is there a way to get a computer on the “G” network to find the wireless printer on the “N” network without first changing networks?
Remember, it automatically finds the USB printer that is plugged into the “G” network router.

It used to be that if you wanted to wirelessly extend the range of a network, you'd have to set up a WDS. (WDS = Wireless Distribution System.) There was no "Extend a wireless network" option and no "Allow this network to be extended" checkbox—you'd have to fill out lots of WDS information yourself. It was sort of a pain.
Then, with the 802.11n AirPorts, Apple introduced the "Extend a wireless network" option, greatly simplifying the setup process. It accomplishes the same thing as a WDS, but it's easier to set up and has less overhead. However, it can only be used if every AirPort in the wireless network supports 802.11n.
Your Express may support 802.11n, but your Extreme is older and does not. So "Extend a wireless network" won't work for your network. That's why you got errors when you set the Express's "Wireless Mode" option to "Extend a wireless network." Instead, you'll have to do things the old-fashioned way* and configure the Extreme and the Express to be part of a WDS. Your network will still work as desired: the Express will rebroadcast the signal from the Extreme, and clients will connect to whichever station has the stronger signal. It's just that you'll be using the older WDS technology instead of the newer "Extend a wireless network" feature.
"Join a wireless network" is something different entirely. You'd use it if you wanted to connect to a network but not rebroadcast it. This could be useful when, for instance, your main router isn't an AirPort but you want to use AirTunes. In your case, however, this option wouldn't be very useful.
Look at [this thread|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2588489] for more information.
*Actually, the old-fashioned way would be to use modems. Or to forget about the internet and send snail mail instead.

I have two wireless networks that I switch back and forth. Everytime I switch the network zone my macbook pro hangs and I have to do a hard shutdown and restart. What is the fix?

I have two wireless networks that I switch back and forth. Everytime I switch the network zone my macbook pro hangs and I have to do a hard shutdown and restart. What is the fix?

Create two locations in Network, one for one and one for the other.
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Using two wireless networks simultaneously

I have a Linksys WRT54G and a Time Capsule, and I want to be able to use the N speed of my TC for backups without it being wired to anything (I keep it hidden in the house somewhere).
What I'd like to do is to have the iMac join two networks, one for Internet and another for TC, but try as I might, I can't get that to work. It's like I can only turn on one network or the other. I have to have TC join the LinkSys' network as a G client.
Alternatively, if the TC could be a G client and a G+N provider, that would work, too.
So can anyone think of a way to get either of these scenarios set up?

Hi tamboril,
You cannot simultaneously join more than one wireless network so your first solution won't work. You could simultaneously connect wirelessly to your Linksys and wired to your TC (or vice versa) and, so long as only one of them supplied a default gateway and they supplied IP addresses on different subnets, then that would work.
I think that you may be able to use the TC as an 'extender' but I'm not sure if that requires a wired connection between the two APs or if it can be both client and base station. If it is possible to be a repeater then you may find that you don't get much benefit from running G to the Linksys and N to the client.
Rgds,
Guy

Connect to two wireless networks simultaneously

Here's the scenario:
I would like to have my airport express connect to my stereo and I'd like to have my mac connect to that via air tunes while at the same time connecting to a time capsule or other wireless router for internet use and have them both operating simultaneously. So that means playing music and using the internet and having both networks active.
Wouldn't that be cool?
I'd also like to have both my powerbook and my macbook doing that at the same time but they won't of course be sending to the airtunes setup at the same time.
Does anyone know if this is possible?
thx

I would like to have my airport express connect to my stereo and I'd like to have my mac connect to that via air tunes while at the same time connecting to a time capsule or other wireless router for internet use and have them both operating simultaneously.
You can. You just need to reconfigure the AirPort Express Base Station (AX) to "join an existing wireless network" as a wireless client.
Here's how ...
Either connect to the AX's wireless network or connect directly, using an Ethernet cable, to the Ethernet port of the AX, and then using the AirPort Utility in "Manual Setup" mode, make the following changes:
AirPort > Base Station
o Base Station Name: <rename or leave default>
o Base Station Password: <enter desired password>
o Verify Password: <re-enter desired password>
o Remember this password in my keychain: (optional)
o Set time automatically: (unchecked)
AirPort > Wireless
o Wireless Mode: Join a wireless network
o Network Name: <existing Time Capsule's wireless network>
o Wireless Security: <select the encryption type of the existing wireless network>
o Wireless Password: <enter the existing wireless network password>
o Verify Password: <re-enter the existing wireless network password>
Music
o Enable AirTunes (checked)
o iTunes Speaker Name: <enter desired speaker name>
o iTunes Speaker Password: (optional)
o Verify Password: (optional)
o Click Update to write the new settings to the AX
In iTunes:
iTunes > Preferences... > Advanced > General
o Look for remote speakers connected with AirTunes (checked)

Running two wireless networks simultaneously

I am running two independent 802.11n 5GHz networks simutaneously. Each has a unique SSID. The first network is using channels 36 & 40 and the second network is using channels 44 & 48. When the first network is transmitting data and the second network attemps to transmit, the second network must wait until the first is finished and then start its transmission. If the first network then needs to transmit, it must also wait until the second network is finished. They keep flip-flopping back and forth. Is this normal? I know they have to wait until the "channel" is clear before they can transmit, but I'm using unique channels and unique SSIDs. Anybody have any idea what's happening and how to get around it?

I agree. The Draft N Standard does provide for a "speed drop and wait" period if another N network is running in the same area. I would "guess" that if there is any possible way you can do so - and of course only you know your circumstances, etc., so it may not be an option for some very good reason- consider combining your two units into one network with two accesspoints available on it. This will eliminate the "stop and wait" stuff, give you better coverage than the two separate networks, and be far less sensitive to various slow-downs, etc. If you reason for separating them is because you're isolating the non-N equipment on one network, if you're lucky enough that it's maybe just one or two printers and/or a computer or two - see if you can hardwire them either back to the AEBS N Units or to a powered hub that's then connected to the Base Stations. Getting the 801.11 B&G units off the air and onto hard wired connections will speed them up greatly, and eliminate any problems with these units slowing down your blazingly fast N-network access. I know it sure as **** did so for me. I had two printers (one w/ Ethernet and 1 with USB Only) and I migrated both of them to hard wired connection at the AEBS-N/g. The one non-N computer was literally beside the base station/cable modem anyway - so plugging it into ethernet was no problem at all. The result is that the remaining five or six computers with an "N-spec" card in them jumped in speed to where they can easily outrun anything my Time Warner Cable modem can ever hope to deliver. My whole network suddenly feels like it's hard wired vs airport. Amazing benefit for getting two printers and one aging computer onto ethernet and off the airports.
Good luck! But I am afraid that as long as your networks are seeing another "N" network in the area they're going to do this slow down and wait routine to avoid collision of data and retrys resulting from that.
All the best,
MI

Showing two wireless networks cant use one

I have two routers in to differant metal buildings and a pc on each and three lap tops. one lap top well see bouth wireless but will not connect to one, but it well the outher weak one and it isnt the security.

Hi… What is the wireless encryption level you selected on your Network? If it is WPA or WPA2 then make sure your wireless adapter supports this encryption and selected algorithm (TKIP or AES). Also make sure that your OS supports the same. If you are using windows XP, then try installing the SP2 patch along with WPA2 patch.

Can I connect to two wireless networks at a time?

I am using an iMac currently connected wirelessly to a Verizon Mifi mobile broadband on one network. I also have a Linsys router connected to the same iMac via an ethernet cable so that I may stream my itunes content to my Apple TV third gen. Lets call this my private network and the verizon my internet for now.
Instead of connecting the ethernet cable to the computer, itself, for the use of the private network, I am wondering if there is a way/workaround/software that would allow me to connect to both the internet AND the private (non internet) networks at the same time. I have the internet info (IP, Mask, Gateway, DNS) and know how to change that same information by logging into my router via its standard IP address to set up. Can anyone lend me ANY leads to this.
My goal it to be able to eliminate the ethernet, and connect to both networks at the same time just to be clear.
THANKS!!!

The way that the Macs work, in general, is that the Internet connection can be shared out through the various means that are installed on the Mac itself. For instance, I used to have Verizon Wireless' 4GLTE Modem connected to a USB port and shared it out via the wireless and Bluetooth PAN.
The biggest problem faced by using Bluetooth is the distance. As everyone who uses Bluetooth headsets knows, you really cannot wander too far from the unit you are paired with--at most 30-40 feet. The unit I was experimenting with was my iPod Touch 4G. I turned off the wireless on the iPod, but left the bluetooth on.
When you Internet Share with the iMac, you have to set the IP address for the connection the other devices are going to share on (i.e. if you connect to Internet on Ethernet, share out on wireless--Ethernet ip might be 192.168.1.8, set your wireless as 192.168.2.1). HOWEVER, set your IP for the shared part before starting the connecting of Internet Share. The set by DHCP should be turned off, you want it to be a static address.

I have two wireless networks want use ether one.

product = hp officejet 8500A premium
OS = win7 ultimate 64
I have (netgear 2.4gz and 5ghz) can i setup 8500a prem to use ether one? I have my laptop setup so I can choose ether of the two. the default is the 2.4 but sometime I sign on to the 5ghz. Can I get the 8500A to see both so I can print from which ever network im using?

Do you have a dual-band router or two routers? If it is is a dual band router, make sure each band uses the same network name and password. The printer can only connect to a 2.4GHz band.
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Can two wireless "networks" co-exist?

Since they both live in the same frequency, has anyone found any conflicts with a Terk Leapfrog LF-30S and the AEX?

If the device is 'wi-fi' and operates in the same band as the AEX does, there shouldn't be cause for concern, as there are a number of channels present in this range.
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Can I connect my Mac to two separate wireless networks at the same time?

Need some assistance with some advanced wireless networking please....
Upstairs I have a D-link wireless router connected to the internet and wired to a couple of PCs. Downstairs I have a minimac linked to my hifi via an airport express. I have bought a D-Link DWL-G122 usb wifi dongle.
So I want the mini mac to connect to the airport express on one wireless network (strong signal) and to be able to connect to the internet on another network (weak signal) via the usb wifi /router.
But the airport software and the d-link driver seem to conflict and both try to take control of the two wireless devices.
Is there any way round this to be able to run one mac with two wireless network devices at the same time?
Thanks

While those with more experience may be able to correct me, I'm pretty sure that you can only connect to one wireless network at a time with your Mac Mini, unless D-Link provides their own proprietary software that bypasses the computer's Airport settings.
Using the AirPort hardware you can only connect to a single wireless network at any given time. However in this situation the 2 attempted connections are via USB and AirPort. Therefore this requires nothing special of the AirPort drivers or settings.
It does require that the Mac OS and applications have the capability to use either network connection (USB or AirPort) depending on what data they are trying to get. In general I understand how it is theoretically possible but I have no idea if you can configure OS X to do it.
...I believe one of the options when setting up the Airport Extreme Base Station is that you can extend a wireless network already in place.
True but the D-Link is not compatible with Apple's WDS therefore this is not possible in this situation.
If you have a newer Airport Extreme Base Station with a USB port on it...
FYI, every AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) has a USB port.
BTW, birky has indicated that he/she is using an AirPort Express (AX) not an AEBS.

Apple TV 1st Gen can no longer connect to wireless networks

My Apple TV (1st Gen) has recently lost the ability to connect to either of our wireless networks at home. I rean the diagnostics at the reset screen and the Apple TV says it is performing normally. In the settings, whenever I attempt to connect to a wireless network, I am now only offered "Other..." as a choice. Proceeding to the next screen, I enter the name of the network closest to the Apple TV -- an Airport Extreme set up for 5 GHz that this Apple TV connected with daily up until 2 days ago. The Airport base station is perfoming normally, as my MacBook Pro can see it and establish a network connection without any difficulty. The issue is limited to the Apple TV. I did a Factory Restore, and now when I go to Wireless Network > "Other..." > Enter the name of the wireless network" the resuit is always the same, and error message stating: "There was a problem connecting to the network. Check your settings and try again. (-4)".
This message comes up almost immediately, without requesting a WiFi password -- suggesting to me that this Apple TV has lost the ability to connect to ANY wireless network due to a hardware failure.
Q: Has anyone else in the Support Community had a similar experience with their 1st Gen Apple TV, and if so, did you find a solution to it?
Note: When I first noticed the connction to this Apple TV had gone stale (greyed out in the iTunes Airplay Speakers list), and prior to doing the Factory Restore, I could play back iTunes content stored on the hard drive, but could not connect to the local wireless networks. I noticed that the Apple TV was running very hot -- it has alwasy run pretty hot to the touch.
If this Apple TV has died, I will get a 3rd Gen Apple TV, but wiill then have to work through the HDMI to Composite video + Audio issues, as this Apple TV is connected to our older (non-HDMI) TV.

Follow-up: Able to connect with ethernet cable, downloaded software updates, connected to iTunes, and synchec content.
Next, disconnected the ethernet cable. ATV1 froze and was restarted using the Menu + ( - ) combo on the remote. Re-ran diagnostics yeilds: Apple TV is working fine.
Restarted, then went to configure the Wirelss settings. Apple TV once again does not show either of the two wireless networks. Selecting "Other..." and entering the SSID yields the same immediate response:
"There was a problem connecting to the network. Check your settings and try again. (-4)"
No change on the wireless front :-( Bummer.
Looks like an ethernet connection is the only option left to continue using this Apple TV 1st Gen.
Thanks for your help. -- Paul

Time Capsule in Standalone Mode with Existing Wireless Network

Hi there,
I hope someone can help. I'm not quite sure where to post this question, so I hope I am in the right place. Ive found various posts on this matter but just would like some assistance with my personal set up.
I have a new retina MacBook Pro arriving soon which will be running Mountain Lion. I've also just purchased a current model Time Capsule for the purpose of wireless backups via Time Machine and would like some advice on how to integrate it into my system.
I already have a wireless Internet connection set up and running well (through a D-link DSL-2740R router) so I don't want to mess around with that (for various reasons it took a long while to set up). I'm therefore looking at running the Time Capsule in a standalone way but I am guessing in doing so it will create a second wifi network (although it will not be connected to the Internet). I appreciate I cannot connect to two wireless networks at once but whilst in the local Apple store recently, one of the assistants mentioned that this would not be a problem for Mountain Lion with regard to Time Machine backups and that I would not have to use bridge mode or anything on the Time Capsule. However I unfortunately had to leave the store before I could find out how to go about setting this up.
I would therefore be grateful if anyone could help with how to set the Time Capsule up in Mountain Lion as mentioned above so that I can get it up and running when my Macbook Pro turns up.
Also, once set up, I would like to use the USB port on the Time Capsule to attach a powered hub to connect multiple USB hard drives. Could someone please confirm that this will work in whatever manner I have to set the Time Capsule up and also whether Time Machine can back these drives up to the Time Capsule as well.
I would say that networks etc. are not my strong point so would be grateful for answers aimed at novice (or lower!) level of technical experience.
Many thanks for your help.
Steve Harvey

This is really the same option as bridging the TC..
You cannot use the TC as a router in the UK.. well mostly not, because all your ISP use PPPoA authentication.. there are some who have recognised the error of following BT blindly and now also use PPPoE. But you cannot authenticate the TC to the modem using pppoa protocol. So there is no way the TC can be in any mode but bridge..
Don't worry if the above didn't make a lot of sense.
When you bridge the TC.. it will act as a switch and WAP, plus hard disk to network.
The wireless can indeed be left on.. even on both devices.. that isn't actually a problem.. although I prefer to set one or both routers to a fix wireless channel.
You can also turn off the dlink wireless but I think you will find the dlink wireless rather better than the TC.
For 2.4ghz there are only 3 non-overlapping channels, 1, 6, 11 ( although you can also use 13 in UK).
The TC is only N lite on 2.4ghz ie max speed is 150mbps.. It will only need one channel.
The Dlink is full N ie 300 or 270mbps and to do this requires 2 channels.. that means you need to be very specifc.. and might be better infact setting the dlink to also only use 1 channel.. ie 20mhz only not 40mhz.
Again if you are not following don't worry.. I will be specific.
Set the dlink wireless to channel 1.. and set it to 20mhz only. The dlink should still have better range than the TC..
Place the TC in a place as far away as you can get.. next room or wireless dead spot would be excellent.. use ethernet or EOP adapters.
Bridge the TC.
Set the TC to channel 11 or 13 as you prefer..
Give it the same wireless name.. (SSID to everyone else) as the Dlink.
Same security setting WPA2 AES on the dlink WPA2 Personal on the TC.
Same passkey.
You now have a roaming system.
ie the laptop should connect to the strongest signal.. just like a mobile phone does as you travel.
The 5ghz will also be available to your computer if the signal is good enough.. range is very poor though.
I do recommend you run 5.6 utility.. this is tricky as it won't install on mountain Lion.
You need to download the utility.
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1482
Download and install unpkg
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/16357/unpkg
Open the 5.6 dmg.. and drag the pkg over a running unpkg.. it will then load the files into a new directory on the desktop.. just drag the airportutility5.6 to your utilites directory.
v6.1 utility in Lion and Mountain Lion is a toy version.

Can I run 2 wireless networks on the same single internet connection?

I wanted to be able to use only my WRT350N to be able to broadcast "N" out into the yard but because it does not broadcast as far as the WRT54G I will have to settle on plan B.
I want to set up two wireless networks using my WRT54G V1 with a WSB24 and my new WRT350N wireless routers.
My last working setup was:
WRT350N with two 1Gb connections to my desktop computers in ports 1 & 2, my link to the WRT54G in port 3 and my HP printer in port 4. The address was changed to 192.168.1.50 and an encryption key used to secure the connection the N network to my laptop.
WRT54G with only the WSB24 connected to provide an unsecured 802.11g wireless connection. We live in the country and I am not worried about unauthorized access to this.
I have found that I can not make a stable wireless connection from the WRT350N past 50 ft. in the house and can not get a connection from this router out of the house. (hence the reuse of the WRT54G)
Still following?
My older router (WRT54G V1 and WSB24) allowed me to roam our yard out to about 175ft from the antennas with the 3945 Intel wireless adapter that is in my Gateway laptop. When I purchased the WUSB300N adapter for the "N" connection, I am able to get a 17% "G" signal in one of the outer buildings at about 200 ft from the WRT54G and not stable connection from the WRT350N past 50ft.
I was able to run the WRT54G as a gateway after changing its address to 192.168.1.51 and leaving the WRT350N at 192.168.1.50 before I updated the WRT350N to v1.03.6 last night and turned it into a brick.
That is talked about in a different thread.
This setup allowed me to connect to the internet outside of the house with the laptop.
Is there a better way to set this up?
Thanks for your help.
Message Edited by PapaBare on 08-24-2007 11:49 AM
Message Edited by PapaBare on 08-24-2007 12:12 PM

If I understand your request correctly it sounds like you want to create a VLAN, two different logical networks on the same physical network. If that's the case however, it would seem that neither the WRT54G nor the WRT350N supports VLAN, at least not without flashing the firmware on one or both of the devices. If you do choose to pursue flashing the firmware with third-party firmware that supports VLAN you might want to look into DD-WRT, HyperWRT, or some other firmware. Keep in mind flashing with third-party firmware voids your warranty with Linksys.
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How can I use an airport extreme to extend my wireless network?

I have a Verizon FIOs router with both wireless and ethernet capability. I also have an airport extreme base station, which is currently connected to the Verizon router by Ethernet and provides wireless to a MacBook in a distant room upstairs. Practically, I have two wireless network now. I have two G4 Sawtooth, which do not have wireless PCI card and require ethernet connection for internet. One of them is in the upstairs study room and connected to the Verizon wireless router by Ethernet. The other is in an downstairs room has not wireless connection.
Can I relocate the airport base station to downstairs and connect it to the Sawtooth there for receiving wireless from the Verizon router and broadcast further to its wireless network? If so, how do I set up the airport station downstairst? If not, I know that I have get a PCI wifi for the Sawtooth downstairs.
Your advice is greatly appreciated.
Robert

Can I relocate the airport base station to downstairs and connect it to the Sawtooth there for receiving wireless from the Verizon router and broadcast further to its wireless network?
Sorry but no the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) will not wirelessly connect to the network provided by the Verizon FiOS router.
What you could do is get another AEBS, an AX, or a Time Capsule and place that downstairs. Then use that device to wirelessly connect to the wireless network provided by your current AEBS. If your current AEBS is not 802.11n capable then you would need to use WDS to make this happen. One bad thing about WDS is that each WDS link cuts your affective wireless bandwidth in half.

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