Typesetter quotation marks in Pages"?

I can't believe there's no automatic way to include typesetter quotation marks (“ ”) as opposed to typer writer fonts (" ") in Pages documents. Am I missing something or do I have to use the special key combination to get the true quotation marks?

Hello Bakari,
to enable "typesetter quotation marks", open the Pages preferences and activate the first checkbox inside the second section.
Frank.

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Quotation marks display as &quot in web pages, I'm using Unicode UTF-8 character encoding.

On many web pages, where a quotation mark character should appear, instead the page displays the text &quot. I believe this happens with other punctuation characters as well such as apostrophes although the text displayed in these other cases is different, of course. I'm guessing this is a problem with character encoding. I'm currently set to Unicode (UTF-8) encoding. Have tried several others without success.

Here's a link where the problem occurs. Note the second line of the main body of text.
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/lp2/snowshoes.html
BTW, I never use IE, but I checked this site in IE and it shows the same problem, so maybe it is the page encoding after all rather than what I thought.
In any case, my thanks for your help and would appreciate any solution you can suggest.

Why does Pages not support French quotation marks?

Hello,
I've got the following problem:
I like using Pages to write my texts. But unfortunately *Pages doesn't support French quotation marks, e.g. « Example. »* what Microsoft Office supports since years. Pages does know the other quotation marks „Example.“.
An other particularity of French quotation marks is, that there is a special space between the quotation marks and the word required; those are called "espaces insécables" (indivisible spaces?) which word inserts automatically.
The same problem exists with other special marks (i.e. "?", "!", ";" and ":"), which require an "espace insécable".
This is just a killer-problem, when writing a paper, which is important. So I can't really use Pages and do have to use Word...
Can anyone help me?
I hope this will be fixed in the next version of iWork!
Thanks a lot.

Magnus Lewan wrote:
I found a reference to the non-breaking space being alt+(space). I think it should work, but I'm surprised that it does when documents are imported from Word.
I've looked for that on the swiss-french keyboard layout. In fact, it is shift + alt + space. But, as I already remarqued, this doesn't really help, because Pages obviously doesn't know how to treat those spaces, that is to say that there won't be any difference if you do a non-breaking space or a normal space...
Henrik Holmegaard wrote:
There are two models for supporting this, either you do it in the application (Microsoft) or you do it in the font file (Apple). There are further implications depending on whether you change the content of the character stream or the content of the glyph stream.
The principle of is to preserve plain text as plain as at all possible. The more one manipulates plain text, the less possible it becomes to search plain text since search systems have to include private synonyms that ignore this or presuppose that.
Apple's original idea was to do as much as possible in 'glyph space' / 'data space' in order to leave 'character space' / 'code space' in the font file as plain as possible. Finite state machines in Apple TrueType 2 are able to do the type of thing you are asking for, but at this point there is no TrueType 2 font file with these features.
You may be right, I don't really know it. There must be another solution.
Nevertheless, this problem has to be fixed by our little friends in Cupertino... I would like Page to work how I expect it to do that...
Well, thanks a lot for all.

Quotation marks don't show up in any text on any web page, and any words that are italicized don't show up at all. Why?

On all web pages any text in quotation marks shows this symbol | instead of this ". And any text that is in italics is not displayed at all.

That is usually caused by a problem with corrupted or missing fonts.
You can use this extension to see which fonts are used for selected text. 
This may also work for blank areas if a font isn't working.
*fontinfo: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/fontinfo/
You can do a font test to see if you can identify corrupted font(s).
*http://browserspy.dk/fonts-flash.php?detail=1
You can try different default fonts and disable website fonts as a test.
*Tools > Options > Content : Fonts & Colors > Advanced
*[ ] "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above"

How can i get the correct text from a string like it show in the original source with the quotation marks in the right place ?

The text is in hebrew so the problem is that sometimes the quotation marks not in the right place.
For example i have this text: תווית
על בגד: ''תן לאישה לכבס. זה תפקידה''
This is the source original text you can see the quotations marks and they are not in the right place and all i did is copy paste.
And this is a screenshot of how this text looks like in the website in the original:
You can see now where the quotations marks should be.
Now this is how i'm using the text in my program:
First of all i'm using a webclient to download the page from the website and i'm also encoding it to windows-1255 since it's in hebrew.
using (var webClient = new WebClient())
webClient.Headers.Add("user-agent", "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.2; .NET CLR 1.0.3705;)");
byte[] myDataBuffer = webClient.DownloadData("http://rotter.net/scoopscache.html");
page = Encoding.GetEncoding("windows-1255").GetString(myDataBuffer);
Then i'm extracting the places i need by reading the html file lines and parsing the right text and it's link.
string loc;
List<string> metas = new List<string>();
List<string> metas1 = new List<string>();
List<string> lockedLinks1 = new List<string>();
string text = "";
string mys = "";
public List<string> LockedThreads(string filename)
lockedThreads = new List<string>();
lockedLinks = new List<string>();
Regex textRegex = new Regex("ToolTip.*?(?=','<)");
string[] fall = File.ReadAllLines(filename);
for (int i = 0; i < fall.Length; i++)
if (fall[i].Contains("http://rotter.net") && fall[i].Contains("locked")||
fall[i].Contains("locked_icon_general") ||
fall[i].Contains("locked_icon_anchor") ||
fall[i].Contains("icon_anchor") ||
fall[i].Contains("locked_icon_fire") ||
fall[i].Contains("locked_icon_sport") ||
fall[i].Contains("locked_icon_camera") ||
fall[i].Contains("locked_icon_movie"))
Regex linkParser = new Regex(@"\b(?:https?://|www\.)\S+\b", RegexOptions.Compiled | RegexOptions.IgnoreCase);
foreach (Match m in linkParser.Matches(fall[i + 2]))
if (m.Value.Contains("><b"))
loc = m.Value.Replace("\"><b", string.Empty);
lockedLinks.Add(loc);
string txt = fall[i - 1];
string text = textRegex.Match(txt).Value.Replace("ToolTip','", String.Empty);
if (text.Contains("’"))
text = text.Replace("’", string.Empty);
lockedThreads.Add(text);
Already here on the List lockedThreads you can see the quotation marks not in the right place as in the original:
After i'm parsing the text and links and adding them to the Lists in another class i'm doing a comparison using this Lists:
foreach (List<string> l_branch in ListsExtractions.responsers)
TreeNode l_node = treeView1.Nodes.Add(l_branch[l_branch.Count - 1]);
if (ListsExtractions.lockedThreads.Contains(l_node.Text))
l_node.ImageIndex = 0;
l_node.SelectedImageIndex = 0;
for (int l_count = 0; l_count < l_branch.Count - 1; l_count++)
TreeNode l_subnode = l_node.Nodes.Add(l_branch[l_count]);
if (ListsExtractions.lockedThreads.Contains(l_subnode.Text))
l_subnode.ImageIndex = 0;
l_subnode.SelectedImageIndex = 0;
The problem is in the line:
if (ListsExtractions.lockedThreads.Contains(l_node.Text))
When it's getting to the line with the quotation marks it's never equal.
Now there are more quotation marks.
In general the problem when comparing both text if it's having quotation marks it's not the same.
So i have two options:
1. To fix it somehow so the quotation marks will be the same in both variables when comparing and also the same like in the original as they show in the html page.
2. To remove the quotation marks from both variables.
What should i do ? And how ? I was prefer to use the original quotation marks like in the original since they have a meaning in the place they should be. The question is how can i do it ?
This is example of the block from the html file where the text with the quotation marks is:
<TD ALIGN="RIGHT" VALIGN="TOP"> 9418 </TD></TR><TR BGCOLOR="#eeeeee">
<TD ALIGN="RIGHT" VALIGN="TOP">
<body onmousemove="overhere()">
<a onmouseover="EnterContent('ToolTip','תווית על בגד: ’’תן לאישה לכבס. זה תפקידה’’','כתב: Spook בתאריך: 08.03.15 שעה: 22:11 מחאת טוויטר קמה בעקבות תוויות שוביניסטיות שהדפיסה חברת אופנה באינדונזיה לפיהן תפקיד הכביסה מוטל על האישה. החברה התנצלה אך כנראה רק עשתה רק יותר נזק לע...'); Activate();" onmouseout="deActivate()" href="javascript:void(0)">
<img src="http://rotter.net/forum/Images/new_locked_icon_general.gif" border="0"></a></TD><TD ALIGN="right" VALIGN="TOP" WIDTH="55%">

<a href="http://rotter.net/cgi-bin/forum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=189696&forum=scoops1">
תווית על בגד: ''תן לאישה לכבס. זה תפקידה''
</a></TD>

Ok, it is unclear on what is happening here.
Are you saying that when the webclient gets the data that it is not honoring the quote characters? Or the processing of the data buffer is causing issues?
This is what I see the of your example text which is trying to be parse out:
<a onmouseover="EnterContent('ToolTip','תווית על בגד: ’’תן לאישה לכבס. זה תפקידה’’','כתב: Spook בתאריך: 08.03.15 שעה: 22:11 מחאת טוויטר קמה בעקבות תוויות שוביניסטיות שהדפיסה חברת אופנה באינדונזיה לפיהן תפקיד הכביסה מוטל על האישה. החברה התנצלה אך כנראה רק עשתה רק יותר נזק לע...'); Activate();">";
It appears to me that the escapes `’` does not have matching `“` anywhere within the tooltip. So it appears that the page properly places left quotes in when processing the page, but the raw html has broken text.
Hence a garbage in, garbage out situation.
William Wegerson (www.OmegaCoder.Com)

How Do I Display Quotation Marks in Dynamic HTML Text

I'm using a dynamic text file that has some Quotation Marks
that need to be displayed with the content on certain words in the
TXT file.
How do i display Quotation Marks inside a Dynamic text field?
Please Advise. As soon as possible.
Thanks

Try this page - it does the job for you:
http://www.dommermuth-1.com/protosite/experiments/encode/index.html
Otherwise search this forum for "Special and characters and
dynamic and text"
You'll see a couple of thread on the topic. You have to
encode the special characters for them to display correctly.

Quotation Marks display as boxes

I need to figure out why in some instance quotation marks
display as boxes.
This may also be a ColdFusion question but I'll start here:
I have a site that displays articles from a coldfusion
database. The articles display fine. There is no css or font tag
applied to the text (so basically displaying default fonts).
Now, I gave the page a new name and surrounded the code with
formatting css. All quotation marks display as square box. I
thought it may depend on the font that I chose (Ariel). So I
removed the css style sheet for a moment but the quotation marks
still show as box. Since I have the same code to pull the data,
same browser, same computer, this is puzzling.
Any idea what is causing this?
Thanks.

Are the quotes 'straight' quotes, or 'curly' quotes? Although
both straight
and curly quotes are special characters (" and
“ respectively) a
' " ' (i.e. straight quote) will usually appear as a straight
quote when put
directly in the code, but I have never had curly quotes
appear correctly. I
guess this is because quotes are used within attributes and
so on in regular
HTML.
If this isn't your problem then someone else will answer
better than I
have...
Regards,
Bruce
"weblinkstudio" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
news:gnv4mg$82f$[email protected]..
>I need to figure out why in some instance quotation marks
display as boxes.
> This may also be a ColdFusion question but I'll start
here:
>
> I have a site that displays articles from a coldfusion
database. The
> articles
> display fine. There is no css or font tag applied to the
text (so
> basically
> displaying default fonts).
>
> Now, I gave the page a new name and surrounded the code
with formatting
> css.
> All quotation marks display as square box. I thought it
may depend on the
> font
> that I chose (Ariel). So I removed the css style sheet
for a moment but
> the
> quotation marks still show as box. Since I have the same
code to pull the
> data,
> same browser, same computer, this is puzzling.
> Any idea what is causing this?
> Thanks.
>

SSMS 2012:XQuery-doing "Retriving Job Candidates with the query Method" in AdventuresWorks 2012. Unclosed quotation mark after string '//*:Name.First?

Hi all,
From Page 354 of the the Book "Pro T-SQL 2008 Programmer's Guide" written by Michael Coles (published by apress), I copied the following code (Listing 12-9 Retrieving Job Candidates with the query Method):
--Coles12_9.sql // saved in C:/Documemnts/SQL Server Management Studio
-- Coles Listing 12-9 Retrieving Job Candidates with the query Method
-- Doing XQuery and the xml Data Type in AdvantureWorks
-- 17 March 2015 1105 AM
USE AdventureWorks;
GO
SELECT Resume.query
N'//*:Name.First,
//*:Name.Middle,
//*:Name.Last,
//*:Edu.Level
FROM HumanResources.JobCandidate;
I executed this set of Listing 12-9 code in my SQL Server 2012 Management Studio and I got the following error messages:
Msg 105, Level 15, State 1, Line 4
Unclosed quotation mark after the character string '//*:Name.First,
//*:Name.Middle,
//*:Name.Last,
//*:Edu.Level
FROM HumanResources.JobCandidate;
Msg 102, Level 15, State 1, Line 4
Incorrect syntax near '//*:Name.First,
//*:Name.Middle,
//*:Name.Last,
//*:Edu.Level
FROM HumanResources.JobCandidate;
I am not able to figure out why I got the error messages. Please kindly help and advise me how to correct this set of sql codes.
Thanks in advance,
Scott Chang

Hi Scott,
I don't have that book at hand, but your problem is the "Unclosed quotationmark after the character string",as the error message shows. You have to enclose the 'XQUERY' string quotation in the
query().
SELECT jobcandidateid, Resume.query
N'//*:resume,
//*:Name.Middle,
//*:Name.Last,
//*:Edu.Level' --enclose the quotation here
FROM HumanResources.JobCandidate;
For XQUERY learning, here is a good
link.
If you have any question, feel free to let me know.
Eric Zhang
TechNet Community Support

Quotation marks and apostophes reversed

When editing text, I'm getting reversed quotation marks and apostophes if they are added to preexisting test. Quotation mark added to the end of a sentence that was already in the document will be pointed the wrong way. Erasing the last letter and retyping it with the quotation mark will perform correctly.
The same happens when placing an apostophe on preexisting text.
This happens in AppleWorks, TextEdit, and Tex-Edit Plus. This does NOT happen in Pages or InDesign. It only happens on one of my computers.
Any ideas?
Ric Carter

Hello
This may be due to a corruption of preferences files dedicated to the named applications.
Try to trash these preferences files.
It may also be due to corruption of some documents but I assumes that if it was specific to only some docs you had wrote this detail.
Some system preferences may be corrupted too but I assumes that if one of them is corrupted, the corruption would strike on every applications on a single computer.
Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 24 mai 2007 19:04:45)

French quotation marks

I'm trying to use Pages '08 in my French classes. I actually find it quite complete: the proofreader is particularly nice.
One must-have feature is the use of French-style quotation marks. Called "guillmets", they look like pairs of less than signs and greater than signs. When running in a French locale, I still get American style quotations. Anyone know how to use the << and >> style?
LC

Funnily (or tragically) enough it seems like Pages does not support les guillemets natively. It does support German Anführungszeichen though, so they should be aware that there is a difference.
Using a US-extended keyboard layout, you can type « using alt+backslash, and you can type » using shiftaltbackslash.

Quotation marks and special characters

Hello,
Does anyone know why quotations marks are rendered as a box (space?)
character on JSP page when displayed as a portlet? They are displayed fine
as a standalone JSP page.
Thank you,
Makoto

Hi Brodi,
Thanks for your insight! Actually we're using WLP 7 - so no visitor tools.
The JSP page doesn't explicitly set the encoding and I'm looking for a tag
line or code that specifies it for the portal page, along with .portal file.
So far I've only seen a reference to character set in i18n:localize tag. Are
the portlet pages processed with certain encoding defined in such tags
before pushed out to the portal page?
Thank you,
Makoto
"Brodi Beartusk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
>
Makoto-
Sounds like a mismatch between the output encoding used between the jspand the
portal. When running the jsp stand-along, it is the jsp that determinesthe output
encoding, while when running from within the portal, it is the .portalfile or
the streamed db portal that determines the output encoding.
If you are using a .portal file, the portal:directive.page element (foundimmediately
after portal:root) is used to define the output encoding, as in:
<portal:directive.page contentType="text/html;charset=UTF-8"/>
If you are using a streamed portal, I believe you can use the Visitortools to
set the output encoding for a desktop.
By default, all portals should have their output encoding specified asUTF-8.
I would recommend using the same for your jsp's.
-Brodi Beartusk

Quotation Marks and Validation

I'm working with an XHTML transitional document.
I read on another forum that it is not necessary to use " for quotation marks in regular html, and that it will validate without them. So I pasted text from am MS Word document with several quotation marks in it in a web page and it validated fine.
However, when I type in text with quotation marks in the design area of the Web page, Dreamweaver inserts the " in the code, as if it is needed.
What is strange is that in this same document, I typed in some quotation marks in the code, so Dreamweaver wouldn't automatically add the ". Then I ran the validation check, and this time I got warnings that I should be using the " because the quotation marks are between tags--in this case just paragraph tags. And it only gave me the warning on the quotation marks I typed in in the code
So what is the reason for this inconsistency? And do I need to use the ".
I would appreciate any assistance with this.

Typing quotation marks in the code is not the same as in the design. In the code quotations are used in HTML and server-side languages such as PHP and ASP differently. In these cases quotes are needed as quotes and not as an HTML ".
Examples:
HTML - "Hello World"
Prints to screen -> "Hello World"
PHP - <?php echo "Hello World"; ?>
Prints to screen -> Hello World
HTML - <div style="border:1px solid #000">Hello World</div>
Prints to screen -> Hello World [Box surrounds text with 1px solid black border]
HTML - <div style="border:1px solid #000">Hello World</div>
Prints to screen -> [I'm not exactly sure what this does but it's not right and could look different in every browser]
Hopefully this makes some sense as to why DW does what it does. If you still have questions feel free to post back.

Quotation marks

Am using font type Helvetica for the body. Want to use curly quotation marks which are not part of the Helvetica world. So, I created another style sheet using Georgia, Times Roman as the font. Applying the new style - .apostrophe - to just the quote marks and then applying the correct style to the paragraph.
The problem is that when view in a browser, the quote marks are not accruate representations. In fact the representation is gibberish to me. Something like this â€œIn and â€.
How to get the curly quotes?
Thanks.

Mixing fonts just to get curly quotes seems like a bad design decision to me, but if that's the way you want to go...
The problem with â€œIn and â€ is almost certainly caused by mismatched page encoding. Open Page Properties from the Modify menu, and select Title/Encoding. Change the page encoding to Unicode UTF8, save the page, and test it again. If that solves the problem, you can make all future pages use the same encoding by changing the New Document preferences in the Preferences panel (Edit menu on Windows, Dreamweaver menu on a Mac).

Russian quotation marks

guys, this is the fifth or sixth version of pages i have now and still nothing is done concerning the Russian quotation marks.
you see, in typographically correct Russian we always use quotation marks like these «» and virtually never like these ", and while the closing quotation mark (») is available at alt (option) + =, there is absolutely no way to type in the opening quotation mark («).
please let me know if there is a solution to my problem, as this is the only setback i suffered since moving from MS Office to iWork.
thanks

khait wrote:
…there is absolutely no way to type in the opening quotation mark («).
You didn't say what keyboard you are using. I am using the Australian/USA keyboard.
option | = «
option shift | = »
Peter

Question marks appear in my browsers now, used as quotation marks...

Lately all sorts of question marks are appearing in certian parts of my browsers, I think that somehow a font is corrupted or something... it appears they are there appostrophies and quotations marks should be; this is very annoying. How can I fix this? As far as I know, I havent done anything with my fonts or to my system.
Thanks
Michael

It would help a great deal if you would provide an example url of a site where you have this problem.
Normally seeing ? instead of punctuation is caused by an encoding mismatch between the browser and the page being viewed, resulting from errors by the page author. You can often fix it by going to View > Text Encoding and manually setting your browser to Western (ISO Latin 1).

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