UCCx 10.5 Silent Monitoring over WAN
I have a client that has agents in remote offices. They are using UCCx 10.5 HA, split between two data centers. MPLS network connecting all sites, bandwidth is not a concern. Some agents are using Citrix XenDesktop, so CAD is being utilized over a Citrix terminal. They want to start using Silent Monitoring on their agent calls. Is there a way to make this work over the WAN?
Thank you,
Ben
Hi
The default mode (Desktop Monitoring) requires that CAD can 'see' the stream to/from the phone. The phone/PC must be daisy chained and configured appropriately.
Typically in Citrix your server is remote, and CAD software running on the Citrix server is nowhere near the phone.
The only option you have for this is to set up SPAN/RSPAN on your switches to mirror traffic to the UCCX server. This was the server-side services sniff the traffic for recording/monitoring purposes. It can be tricky to set up, especially if you have a WAN deployment...
Aaron
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