Ultra ATA 133 PCI to IDE HDD

Hi i got this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-ATA-133-PCI-IDE-HDD-Raid-Controller-Adapter-/13042 5292604?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5df4073c#ht_4843wt_1144
To expand the ammount of hardrive space my power mac g4 can actually use.
I already had a partition on my hardrive running os x leopard.
when i ran the rig back up i got the missing hardrive icon at boot
any ideas???

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and the processor...
if i upgrade it to the 1.8 GHz
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the processor,
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