Unable to backup iphone 4 to computer using itunes

I have the most up to date software for both the iphone4 and itunes, and while itunes recognized and connects fine to my iphone, a backup does nothing. For example I click to start a backup, and in the upper center it says "Backing up Bob's iphone..."  however it never does anything from that point on. The progess bar never moves, the screen never changes, and finally I just have to disconnect it. I have tried many times, reseting both computer and phone and then trying again, and have left it connected for over 12 hours. 
What do I need to do in order for my phone to backup?

Actually it's a good question ... I have not done it before manually. If the folder exists does it mean that I have done it before?
The folder is completely empty.  I reconfirmed that I have full-control persmissions on all folders below my username ...
C:\Users\(username)\AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\Backup\ [Vista machine]
I have restricted access to the C:\User folder
- Read & Execute
- List folder content
- Read

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