Unable to boot from DVD to install second OS in dual-boot system

After much soul-searching and budget managing I bought a new iMac (my first all-new Mac since 1995!) to replace my beloved MDD, and of course it comes with Lion.  This turned out to be a small problem because there are certain apps that I can't do without that (it turns out) will never be updated to work with anything later than Snow Leopard.
To get past this I installed a second partition and intended to install an older version of the OS so I could boot into that and use the old software.  Everything went fine until I actually tried to start from the (borrowed) install DVD.  All I get is the three long tones that tell me that RAM has failed the POST, and I have to eject the disk while doing a hard restart to get back into Lion.  I've tried several other install disks as well, in versions of the OS back to 10.3 - some do the same thing, others are old enough to be PPC-only.  And I can't just boot from the disks while in Lion because the installer versions don't match.
Any ideas as to what I may be doing wrong here?

You need to track down a Mac OS X 10.6 install DVD which came with that model of Mac or create a Mac OS X 10.6.7 or 10.6.8 system elsewhere and clone it to that partition.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JId524890zc.
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    TRIAL 4 - From Startup Manager, try to boot from DVD.
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    - Boot from DVD (C key hold) -> Access DVD first, but no boot.
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    Disc version 1.1
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