Unable to Capture HDTV with Firewire

I would like to use the Firewire out capability of my LG HDTV and record video into the computer.
I've connected the G5 and tried using iRecord 0.4 and VirtualDVHS. The TV recognizes the 1394 connection and will often tell me it is transfering data, but no application has received any video. The time counter will increment, but the destination file stays at zero size.
I've downloaded FireWireSDK21 and looked over the applications and some of the source code. Wow, there is a lot to learn to figure out what is going on here.
I've wondered if buying QuickTime Pro will help, I only hesitate to do this because in the past, as soon as I buy Pro, a new QuickTime comes out and I have to do it agian. I'll buy it if it will help. So, Will it help to have QuickTime Pro?
I am also looking at some of AVCVideo applications in the SDK and wonder of these might be closer to what I want to work with. So, With Firewire, how specific are devices, i.e. do I want the G5 to look like a DVR or something else?
Finally, iMovie seems to expect to see a camera and the video from the TV does not seem to look like a camera (iMovie tells me no camera is connected). Is there a plug in or tool to trick iMovie or add capability to it to act as a DVR? I've downloaded FireWireSDK21 and looked over the applications and some of the source code. Wow, there is a lot to learn to figure out what is going on here.
Thanks! This was posted in another forum for a few weeks with no repsonses, this is the last chance.

Vidi didn't work.
The TV Firewire and Vidi had no compatible modes.
I suspect that iRecord and VirtualDVHS offer the same capability. There is some setting on the Firewire stream that is compatible with none of these programs. Still looking for a solution.
Thanks.

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• You should be using 'Firewire Basic' as the control protocol. If you aren't, go change it and try again.
• Also, verify that you have a solid installation of Quicktime. You may want to reinstall it using the 'delete receipts' method.
With some confidence that the software installation and camera settings are correct ... the most direct solution is to purchase another, non-Canon device to use as your capturing machine. The (now discontinued) Sony DSR-11 is highly recommended for DV work. A deck will save wear and tear on the camera's lightweight drive mechanism and will allow you to permanently connect a NTSC/PAL monitor for proper viewing. If you are working with HDV, you may have other issues ...
Beyond that, the path you take depends on the model of computer you own.
1. If you have a G5 tower or a MacPro, capture to a second internal drive with only the camera attached. If you need to move material to firewire drive, disconnect the camera. A second internal drive is quite inexpensive these days if you do not already have one.
2. If you have a G5 tower (PCI) MacPro (PCI), G4 powerbook (PCMCIA) or MacBookPro (Expresscard 43) with an available slot, purchase the appropriate firewire card for the slot. Connect your camera to the card and you should be good to go. The new card creates a unique bus and will avoid collisions with the external drives.
3. If you do not have a slot or a second internal drive and you are stuck with the camera, welcome to the camera/drive shuffle.
• shut down and remove the external hard drive(s) from the system
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• start the camera then the computer
• capture to your internal (system) hard drive
• shut down the camera and computer
• disconnect the camera and reconnect the external hard drive(s)
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There is the option of capturing using iMovie, but that brings on it's own set of problems and is not recommended.
Good luck.
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