Unable to install labview real-time

I just successfully installed labview v8.0 on a pc and this is my first time to ever use this application. I was trying to install labview real-time v7.1 for my cRIO. Unfortunately, it failed to install. I received an error message saying that I needed to have LabView 7.1 prior to the installation. LabView 8.0 is working great and I dont understand why does LV real-time wants an older version.
Do I have to uninstall LabView v8.0 and order an older version to get labview v7.1 to get running?
Any insights for a newbie will be greatful.
Thanks

What do you mean by "I was trying to install
labview real-time v7.1 for my cRIO"? It is not clear if you got
the error when installing that piece of software in the cRIO RT
controller or when you were installing the software on your PC.
Nonetheless, if your intention is to use LabVIEW 8.0, then there is no
reason why you need to install anything that has to do with LV 7.1
(such as cRIO RT support for LV 7.1 on your PC or LV RT -real-time- on
the controller). In your case, it seems to be ok to ignore errors
related to LV 7.1; it could have been that the computer you are
installing NI software on had an older version of LV that was not
properly uninstalled.
BTW, the installers should be smart enough to install the right
versions you will need given you install LV 8.0 first. To ensure all
needed pieces are installed, make sure you run the installers in this
order: LabVIEW first, followed by LV RT and/or LV FPGA, and NI-RIO last.
Hope this helps.
JMota
National Instruments

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