Unable to link another pc to Homegroup

I have 2  x HP desktops both running Win 8 64bit.
I can set up a Homegroup on either or both pcs but I cannot get either to connect to the other Homegroup, whether there is only 1 Homegroup in existence on either pc or a Homegroup established on both pcs and a connection is attempted from either end.
i have run the Homegroup and Network troubleshooters and they either find nothing wrong or when I ask for further help they either refer me to here or offer to phone a friend.
I have set up sharing at both ends to allow everyone all permissions but to no avail.
My network is arranged with the main-pc hard-wired to the broadband router and the other pc wirelessly networked using the type of adapter that plugs into the mains.
If I try to access the other pc from either end in networking I am asked for a login username and password which I did not set up initially.
Your assistance please.

What specifically happens when you try to join the 2nd PC to the 1st PC's homegroup?
This document covers what should happen when creating a homegroup and joining a PC to a homegroup.  At what step does what you see differ from the steps listed in the document? 
Do you any error messages?  If so, what are they?
My network is arranged with the main-pc hard-wired to the broadband router and the other pc wirelessly networked using the type of adapter that plugs into the mains.
For some reason, I can't seem to picture how the devices are connected to the network.  How exactly is the 2nd PC connected to the router wirelessly? Sorry if I am being a little dense and just not seeing how the topology.
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