Unable to modify color management

I am using OSX 10.9.1
I am attempting to print photographs to a Canon Pixma printer
The Instructions state that I need to change "Color Matching" from the drop down box from "ColorSynch" to "Canon Color Matching"
While both selections appear, they are greyed out preventing me from changing from ColorSynch to Canon
Any ideas why this is an issue?
Thanks,

mick2001,
Thank you for using Apple Support Communities.
For more information, take a look at:
Troubleshooting printer issues in OS X
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts3147
Use Software Update to find and install the latest available updates. If an update is installed, see if the issue persists.
Open the Print & Scan pane or Print & Fax (Snow Leopard) pane in System Preferences.
Delete the affected printer, then add the printer again.
If the issue persists, try these additional steps:
Reset the printing system, then add the printer again.
If the issue still persists, reset the printing system again. Download and install your printer's drivers. Then, add the printer again.
Have a nice day,
Mario

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DG

Log in to the web page and try some different characters e.g.
green_11david_Y1973.photoshop.com
In the print dialog you need to click More Options and choose printer manages color if you want to use your printer/paper profile.

Unable to modify color management

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