Unbearably slow downloads on only Arch.

I run several computers in my apartment, and every one has been getting a 3Megabit minimum connection on uncapped downloads... however since installing Arch, I can barely get 50k out of downloads. Websites seem to load just as quick as ever, but FTP and HTTP transfers of any large files take an extremely long time, occasionally jumping up to 100k for a couple seconds, only to simmer back down to 20-50k. Right now a supposedly 10Mbit FTP connection, via my 5Mbit CDSL is downloading at 13.5k/s.
This only seems to happen with internet transfers as well, I can easilly get 3Mbit connections to my NAS servers and other PCs.

Still having this problem. After disabling TCP window scaling, and trying that other option under the same section, speed has increased very slightly. It's still taking a long time to load most web pages.
Ftp transfers start out at 2-10kbps, but go up to nominal speed after a few seconds, however.

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